• Aggressive
  • amazed
  • Amused
  • Angelic
  • Angry
  • Annoyed
  • Artistic
  • Asleep
  • Awesome
  • Bashful
  • Bemused
  • Bitchy
  • Blah
  • Bored
  • Breezy
  • Brooding
  • Busy
  • Buzzed
  • Chatty
  • Cheeky
  • Cheerful
  • Cloud
  • Cocky
  • Cold
  • Cold Turky
  • Confused
  • Cool
  • Crappy
  • Crazy
  • Crying
  • Curious
  • Cynical
  • Daring
  • Depressed
  • Devilish
  • Doh
  • Doubtful
  • Down
  • Drunk
  • Embarrased
  • Energetic
  • Enraged
  • Fiendish
  • Fine
  • Flirty
  • Friendly
  • Geeky
  • Gloomy
  • Godly
  • Goofy
  • Grumpy
  • Happy
  • Hateful
  • Hot
  • Hung over
  • Hungry
  • In love
  • In Pain
  • Innocent
  • Insapired
  • Lonely
  • Lurking
  • Meh
  • Mellow
  • Michievios
  • Nerdy
  • None
  • Notworthy
  • Paranoid
  • Pensive
  • Piratey
  • Poorly
  • Psychedelic
  • Question
  • Relaxed
  • ROLFMAO
  • Sad
  • Scared
  • Secret
  • Shocked
  • Shy
  • Sick
  • sleepy
  • Sneaky
  • Snobbish
  • Spaced
  • Stressed
  • Sunshine
  • Sweet tooth
  • Thinking
  • Tired
  • Twisted
  • Veggedout
  • Worried
  • Wtf
  • Yeehaw
  • Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
    Results 1 to 10 of 12

    Thread: Atos medical

    1. #1
      Senior Moderator & Antiquities Friend
      is is plotting against Lightbeam
       
      I am:
      Angelic
       
      Terry's Avatar
      Join Date
      Sep 2006
      Location
      Lem's paw
      Posts
      13,196

      Atos medical

      Anyone in the UK on invalidity benefit who has failed the Atos medical and had their benefit rescinded.
      Has anyone managed to successfully appeal and if so how long did it take?
      "To those who believe in God, no explanation is necessary.
      To those who do not, no explanation will suffice."

      http://www.fleurdelis.com/desiderata.htm

      "step drag, stumble drool"


      ME: Mad...Bad...and Dangerous to know!!! :diablo: :laugh:




      If you love something, set it free. If it comes back, it will always be yours.
      If it doesn't come back, it was never yours to begin with.
      But, if it just sits in your living room, messes up your stuff, eats your food, uses your telephone,
      takes your money, and doesn't appear to realise that you had set it free.....
      you either married it or gave birth to it.

      I came.....I saw.....I Gave Up!!!

    2. #2
      Senior Member
      This user has no status.
       
      I am:
      ----
       
      Scum's Avatar
      Join Date
      Dec 2006
      Posts
      3,249

      Re: Atos medical

      Hey Terry,

      I know of several people who have failed (I think with specifically mental health problems you are almost expected to fail) but who have had their benefits reinstated either on the first or second appeal, but the process took many months (not helpful if you are desperate for the money).

      I don't know much about it though, but I would involve your CAB and any other charity in your area you can and then work with the one who seems most effective. I think, from the people I know, they got copies of the report made about them from the medical and often it was inaccurate. They bank on people not appealing because it saves money, so definitely appeal.

      If this is you going through this, I'm sorry you're faced with it I hope you manage to get it sorted soon. If it's someone you know, I hope they manage to get it sorted soon too.


      My name is my name for a reason. Don't lull yourself into a false sense of security that it's not true because yes, I am a bitch.

    3. #3
      IntoTheWoods
      Guest
      This user has no status.
       
      I am:
      ----
       

      Re: Atos medical

      You might want to consider contacting Atos and getting information about the person who did the assessment - i.e. were they an expert in their field - did they have a mental health qualification or just a general nurse qualification. In my experience general nurses do not have the same level of knowledge as a psychiatric nurse / mental health nurse and I believe at recruitment for these diasbility assessors, they do not specify a mental health qualification. You wouldn't get a psychiatrist to assess an appendicitis, so why is it ok for a general nurse to assess outside of their speciality.

    4. #4
      solly
      Guest
      This user has no status.
       
      I am:
      ----
       

      Re: Atos medical

      See the forum at abcofesa for much info and personal feedback from those who have gone through the process. Apparently success rates on appeal are high which is one of the reasons why ATOS is attracting condemnation from disability groups, doctors and MPs.

    5. #5
      New Member
      This user has no status.
       
      I am:
      ----
       
      tudor_77's Avatar
      Join Date
      Aug 2011
      Location
      Liverpool, UK
      Posts
      20

      Re: Atos medical

      I know someone who just got ESA without even having to go through the assessment on mental health grounds. Just try and send as much supporting evidence with your your claim form as possible ie psychiatrists letters and reports.

      I haven't been called upon to claim yet as I am still on Incapacity but not really looking forward to it!!

    6. #6
      Senior Moderator & Antiquities Friend
      is is plotting against Lightbeam
       
      I am:
      Angelic
       
      Terry's Avatar
      Join Date
      Sep 2006
      Location
      Lem's paw
      Posts
      13,196

      Re: Atos medical

      We're in the middle of the appeal, can you believe this; the assessment was done by a nurse and not even a psychiatric nurse!
      "To those who believe in God, no explanation is necessary.
      To those who do not, no explanation will suffice."

      http://www.fleurdelis.com/desiderata.htm

      "step drag, stumble drool"


      ME: Mad...Bad...and Dangerous to know!!! :diablo: :laugh:




      If you love something, set it free. If it comes back, it will always be yours.
      If it doesn't come back, it was never yours to begin with.
      But, if it just sits in your living room, messes up your stuff, eats your food, uses your telephone,
      takes your money, and doesn't appear to realise that you had set it free.....
      you either married it or gave birth to it.

      I came.....I saw.....I Gave Up!!!

    7. #7
      Senior Moderator
      is playing the sims!
       
      I am:
      Geeky
       
      Butterfly's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jun 2009
      Location
      England
      Posts
      5,584

      Re: Atos medical

      Flippingheck Terry. You could actually report her to the NMC for not being competent to do that assessment.


      Big girls cry when their hearts are breaking




    8. #8
      Senior Member
      This user has no status.
       
      I am:
      ----
       
      Cariad_Bach's Avatar
      Join Date
      Nov 2011
      Location
      Wales, UK
      Posts
      576

      Re: Atos medical

      Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
      Flippingheck Terry. You could actually report her to the NMC for not being competent to do that assessment.
      Actually, no. the GMC has nothing to do with ATOS or the DWP or these medical assessments. They are not diagnosing, or advising, or treating. They are "assessing the effect of the disability on the person's day-to-day life"
      - badly
      Last edited by Cariad_Bach; 29th December 2013 at 08:49 PM. Reason: to remove a stray punctuation mark
      Please tread carefully for you tread on my dreams.

    9. #9
      Senior Member
      This user has no status.
       
      I am:
      ----
       
      Adam's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jul 2005
      Posts
      267

      Re: Atos medical

      It is my intent to write a thorough guide on this issue and how I manage to get clients into the support group on mental health grounds with out an ATOS medical even occurring. But I am unwell right now mainly because I have lost clients to this odious system and stress has broke my mind again. If you really can't wait then I suggest this site. http://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/ However you have to pay 20 for access for a year. But it has the most up to date guides that many professionals even use. With step by step guidance and clarification of each question the appeals process and the tribunal. It is certainly better than taking out a payday loan or wrestling with rent arrears. If you don't get it right the first time, the system is entirely stacked against you in a manner that would make Kafka have a heart attack.

      If you are in a state of Nil income go look up Short Term Benefit Advances. They are the new Crisis loan. But you are not told about anything useful as the DWP operates on a policy of not volunteering advice unless directly asked. Since most don't know what to ask the likelihood of getting useful advice is slim. Here is another useful site with advice that is pretty current.

      http://fightback.boards.net/

      Lastly to any one who wants to espouse uninformed views born of Daily Mail bigotry in regards to welfare, read this and keep your judgmentalism to your self.

      http://www.latentexistence.me.uk/wp-...ily+stigma.pdf


      Terry the jury is out on how long it takes, there is such a backlog of appeals and further cuts to the Jobcentre itself who can barely process the volumes they have now. A year has started to become the norm. Hopefully the above links prove helpful in your fight.

      Butterfly you are actually not correct, even though the Atos is said to be a medical it is not. On paper it is actually a disability assessment. This is why Midwives can justify their conclusion as they have had in house training from ATOS to be a disability analyst. They are meant to have Mental Health Champions, but in my years of doing this I have never encountered one. They use Lima software which comes from American insurance companies and was successfully sued against in America for operating disability denial factories. This is why you read stories about a person with Parkinson's disease being found fit for work and having to be retested even though parkinson's is a degenerative illness. The GMC/NMC is pretty toothless and the various laws that exist right now are some what prohibitive of attempting a negligence suit. Any complaint you make may simply be construed as 'vexatious' as you are simply angry at denial of income.

      It is all rather grim.
      Last edited by Adam; 29th December 2013 at 09:45 PM.
      Death is not the greatest loss in life. The greatest loss is what dies inside us while we live.

    10. #10
      Senior Moderator
      is playing the sims!
       
      I am:
      Geeky
       
      Butterfly's Avatar
      Join Date
      Jun 2009
      Location
      England
      Posts
      5,584

      Re: Atos medical

      It should be noted that my last post was made over 2 years ago.


      Big girls cry when their hearts are breaking




    Posting Permissions

    • You may not post new threads
    • You may not post replies
    • You may not post attachments
    • You may not edit your posts
    •