Everyone should have the right to die humanely

[Anonymous2]

Everyone should have the right to die humanely. This archaic idea that only murders can be euthanized is ridiculous. I don't understand why murderers and violent rapists get to die more humanely than suicidal people.

I mean seriously, an evil man could go torture and murder 100 people and then get to simply go to sleep. I'm mean, literally go to sleep (lethal injection = "It kills the person by first putting the person to sleep and then stopping the breathing and heart in that order".) Think about how easy and peaceful that is. In addition, they get the luxury of leaving an unmutilated body for family members.

But a person whose only crime is having a mental or physical disorder, has to suffer severe trauma before dying. Either in fear (e.g., jumping, guns), pain (e.g., random drugs), or both (e.g., fire, drowning, etc.).

[SBlake]

I'm not too sure what you mean by humanely? As in someone else administering that deathly moment? Contrasting suidide to execution is quite :| to me. For starters I consider execution to be quite dangerous in itself, and extremely contraversial as to who has the right/ their justifications.

When it comes to suicide, I don't think it should be made easier, or encouraged by any society. Too many things can go wrong, and society has no core level respect for life yet, so messing about with who can live and die is extremely immature for our societies.

I really don't mean to edge this but people can die humanely. Your argument that extreme violent offenders are executed/murdered in a humane way and that this should be applied to suicidal people isn't really right in my opinon. You're blurring a complete line of someone else supplying/commiting the act for another person, as opposed to that person having to do it themselves. A can almost guarentee that if there are valid routes of "support" to assisted suicide, some people who would overcome suicide would not in the end, simply because of the ease of "access".

Again though, I wouldn't trust our social mentalities with this. It's another easy escape that shouldn't be there. Just my opinon.

In the end, I'd hope that there is more training and understanding put into the strains and mental pressures that compile and make mental health issues even worse for people. I don't believe in helping people end their lives, but I believe in helping to advance and create a system that believes and respects people for who they are, and helps them to overcome their unique issues. Society should always be trying to preserve and respect life. I do realise from one point of view respecting life is not interfering in those choices of suicide, but that comes at a fragile balance in itself. I don't think society should edge towards encouraging it's time to give up or move on past who we are.

My opinons obviously very generalized, especially considering terminally ill people. I'm still off on that too but offering my opinon on that seems :| I still believe there's always hope, no matter how dire a Time is.

[gloomy]

The whole point of capital punishment and 'humane' execution is that someone has proven themselves to be a threat to society and is beyond rehabilitation, it's not supposed to be about taking revenge, even though a lot of people like the idea of being able to get revenge on someone, or maybe they just like the idea of killing someone and finally have a situation where it's socially acceptable to feel good about it.

Suicide isn't exactly socially acceptable, and depression isn't really a legitimate cause for euthanasia… especially if it's not a serious condition.

[Drake]

Look take a holiday to Switserland , discuss everything with doctors there , if they really think your case is proven .
You are debt free , no overburdened baggages , they are more then happy to allow you the humane way to go .

You just pay the cost like any other threatment and disposal of your remains will be arranged too once paid in full .
See not every country in the world thinks people should suffer so much .

[AlienBeing]

Is that really true about Switzerland? I wish I could afford a trip there if it is. I think if you've suffered from treatment resistant depression all your life, you're almost 50 and you've been injured trying experimental treatments for it, euthanasia should be an acceptable thing to do. I can no longer be expected to contribute anything useful to my community anyway and they would be better off without me. There will soon be no one left to grieve to any appreciable extent either. I suffer on, only so my dying parents won't have to suffer, but I understand that not everyone can manage that and sometimes I really don't think I can either. I just want the final peace of nothingness that it is hard to resist. Yet cruelly, I must do violence to myself and leave a mess for my family because nobody will help me end my suffering gently and humanely and accept that my suffering is too much for me to bear. Yes I totally agree with the OP on this one. Except that murderers aren't choosing to die, it's being forced on them so that's not humane either. I don't agree with the death penalty. I don't think we should stoop to the level of the murderer and do what they did. I'm glad we don't have it in Canada, even though a family member was murdered. But that's a completely different issue from the right to die for those with untreatable illness that causes endless suffering for them.

[Drake]

It is true about switserland , but you really need to go trough a therapie session , they want to make sure you have no regrets , and are not seeking the easy way out of life .

basically it is a procedure too , not something he doc ! , I want to die set it all up for me !
Wish they did that in most country other country too , but guess in keeping elderly alive is earned more money .
And job offers then letting them gracefully pace away .

All boils down to the age old question of money and those who are in control of money .
Humanity always came second place in all things .

[AlienBeing]

I'll bet it's actually pretty hard to get the OK for it. I had a young British friend from another suicide forum who decided not to have her brain cancer treated because she was suicidal before she got it. She went to the Netherlands to die but said the process of getting Euthanasia, even though she had left the cancer so long that there was no hope of recovery any more, was just too daunting. She stayed anyway though because she was getting excellent hospice care--another good thing they have for the dying there. RIP my online friend Whattajoke. (She never revealed her real name because she didn't want her family to find her. That's gotta be one unsupportive family when you don't want them anywhere near you when you are dying. And she was just 19 years old.) I miss you Whatta.

[Xaos]

"No one should have the right to die, living people make better profits for our company than dead ones" - A quote by some **** who works for a mental health drugs production company

[normaljoe]

it is simple altruism. and since government has the monopoly of force and coercion they abuse that to do what is best for the public. ironic they pass laws like this and force you to obey them at the point of a gun lol. (I am anarcho capitalist, basically I am saying that if the doctor is willing I see no problem, just sign a release form with a witness.)

[katrina77]

There is a right to die law in Oregon. Someone I know chose to use it. It was not an especially positive thing. First of all, you have to be able to hold the poison yourself, and be able to sit up and drink it without assistance. This does not allow someone who is beyond this point the ability to choose this option. And this pushes people to opt out before they are ready. And it was pure unadulterated Hell for people around her.

Not an option I would choose for myself. Too many scars left behind.