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      Re: Presidential Debate

      Also, if you ever plan on going to university, or sending your kids to university in the future, I'd go with Obama:

      http://blog.credit.com/2012/10/obama...student-loans/

      Otherwise, you or your kids could end up well over 50k in the hole and never be able to pay it back.

      You just gotta love Romney's unflinching support of his best friends… as if the baby boomers hadn't wrecked things enough for their kids, they also get to be held accountable when they can't pay ridiculously inflated prices for an education that is basically the only way that you could ever possibly get a slight, minuscule shot at a well-paying job… which probably won't even be an option for the majority after the first few years of his term.
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      Re: Presidential Debate

      Quote Originally Posted by gloomy View Post
      http://www.ibtimes.com/romney-cant-f...experts-843747

      Enjoy your new tax.
      But don't worry, there's no way that he's not lying.
      I disagree.

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      Re: Presidential Debate

      Quote Originally Posted by gloomy View Post
      Also, if you ever plan on going to university, or sending your kids to university in the future, I'd go with Obama:

      http://blog.credit.com/2012/10/obama...student-loans/

      Otherwise, you or your kids could end up well over 50k in the hole and never be able to pay it back.

      You just gotta love Romney's unflinching support of his best friends… as if the baby boomers hadn't wrecked things enough for their kids, they also get to be held accountable when they can't pay ridiculously inflated prices for an education that is basically the only way that you could ever possibly get a slight, minuscule shot at a well-paying job… which probably won't even be an option for the majority after the first few years of his term.
      No, that will happen under Obama. It's already happening under Obama.
      Look at how many people are unemployed and it just keeps getting worse. More and businesses keep cutting back employees hours, downsizing employees, closing business altogether. 50% of graduates can't even find jobs.
      30 cents from every dollar that Obama spends is owed to China.
      We can't continue down this path of destruction.

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      Re: Presidential Debate

      Quote Originally Posted by Autumn01 View Post
      We can't continue down this path of destruction.
      You can blame Bush for this catastrophe. Oh wait... he did nothing wrong when Haliburton put more money in his pocket, or BP drilling for oil (look at what happened there). But yeah, Bush caused all the problems, and you want another Republican in the white house?? Romney will fuck it up even more than Bush did! We had a surplus of money when Clinton was in office. I don't care how much you try to paint pubs in a bright light. They are corrupt, and always looking out for themselves. Romney is not different.
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      Re: Presidential Debate

      Quote Originally Posted by Autumn01 View Post
      No, that will happen under Obama. It's already happening under Obama.
      Look at how many people are unemployed and it just keeps getting worse. More and businesses keep cutting back employees hours, downsizing employees, closing business altogether. 50% of graduates can't even find jobs.
      30 cents from every dollar that Obama spends is owed to China.
      We can't continue down this path of destruction.
      Oh really?

      Oil workers lead the way as U.S. wages climb

      http://finance.yahoo.com/news/oil-wo...095700957.html

      U.S. jobless claims fall to lowest in four and a half years

      http://finance.yahoo.com/news/jobles...123427605.html

      Obama has done everything he possibly could in order to pull your country out of the mess that W created. And yes, W was responsible-- he knew that deregulation of Wall Street was creating a monster but he didn't care, because they were his friends. Enron alone was proof that deregulation was creating a culture of financial predators, but since they were his best buds he thought that it would be a good idea to stay the course. So then we had the 2008 crash that happened because no one was paying attention and Bush was busy constructing his fascist nightmare state which you still haven't been able to escape and probably never will... so it was all-too-easy to dismiss Enron as just a blip, because of course you can always trust Wall Street not to do it again.

      Romney is trying to convince everyone that things are not improving and that he has the fastest, easiest answer to a problem that's already going away-- but the thing is, there is no fast an easy answer to the absolute disaster that was W… and if there is an answer, it's definitely not to pretend that his presidency wasn't destructive, or that Wall Street will ever stop being greedy.

      Romney has already promised to reverse every single regulation that Obama has tried to force onto Wall Street and allow his best friends to destroy the global economy with their greed. Anyone who is not already rich will be completely destroyed and no one will be able to help them. 2008 will happen again-- but worse… and then what? Another bailout? All of Wall Street needs to be put under martial law and constantly policed by military agents who will shoot anyone who gets out of line.

      If anything, Obama's biggest problem is that he's been too half-assed about everything… I hope if he gets re-elected he stops being such an idealist and becomes like the anti-Bush. W didn't listen to ANYONE and did whatever he pleased, neither should Obama. He should stop trying to unite the country and make everyone happy, and just go for it… fuck the haters. That's the one thing people liked about Bush-- he did things. They were horrible things, but at least stuff happened.

      Unfortunately, it's always more glamourous and exciting to smash everything to bits than to desperately try to clean up what has become an impossible mess after a long, brutal 8 years of complete mismanagement and utter incompetence-- this is why Obama is not being portrayed as a great president, because he inherited a f--king mess and became a janitor for everyone's retarded, indebted, entitled BS. You might notice that Clinton breezed through his 8 years with almost no major incidents except a ridiculous sex scandal that had no bearing on his leadership skills, while Bush created all kinds of drama and BS and basically threatened the stability of the entire world… and now Obama is trying to pick up the pieces, figure out how they all go together, and then glue it back into something resembling what it once was.

      All of the Republican Presidents of the past 30 years have been horrifying, terrifying monsters who do dangerous things and create problems for the entire world. Reagan was probably the absolute worst, and the one who started all the BS that Obama has to clean up. He was popular because he was a movie star but in reality he brought the world closer to nuclear holocaust than it had been since Kennedy (when people thought that it was actually possible to survive nuclear wars)… seriously, the man aggressively courted the extinction of the human race and everyone thought he was wonderful… meanwhile, he also set into motion the Wall Street predators that have now multiplied into a virus destroying the entire world with greed and cocaine and psychopathic urges, causing crashes for fun and profit, and laughing at the suckers who keep on voting in their guys.

      I don't even think the people who vote for Romney have actual reasons-- they just think that he's on 'their side', like a bunch of alcoholics cheering for a football team or something.
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      Re: Presidential Debate

      Quote Originally Posted by gloomy View Post
      Oh really?

      Obama has done everything he possibly could in order to pull your country out of the mess that W created. And yes, W was responsible-- he knew that deregulation of Wall Street was creating a monster but he didn't care, because they were his friends. Enron alone was proof that deregulation was creating a culture of financial predators, but since they were his best buds he thought that it would be a good idea to stay the course. So then we had the 2008 crash that happened because no one was paying attention and Bush was busy constructing his fascist nightmare state which you still haven't been able to escape and probably never will... so it was all-too-easy to dismiss Enron as just a blip, because of course you can always trust Wall Street not to do it again.

      Romney is trying to convince everyone that things are not improving and that he has the fastest, easiest answer to a problem that's already going away-- but the thing is, there is no fast an easy answer to the absolute disaster that was W… and if there is an answer, it's definitely not to pretend that his presidency wasn't destructive, or that Wall Street will ever stop being greedy.

      Romney has already promised to reverse every single regulation that Obama has tried to force onto Wall Street and allow his best friends to destroy the global economy with their greed. Anyone who is not already rich will be completely destroyed and no one will be able to help them. 2008 will happen again-- but worse… and then what? Another bailout? All of Wall Street needs to be put under martial law and constantly policed by military agents who will shoot anyone who gets out of line.

      If anything, Obama's biggest problem is that he's been too half-assed about everything… I hope if he gets re-elected he stops being such an idealist and becomes like the anti-Bush. W didn't listen to ANYONE and did whatever he pleased, neither should Obama. He should stop trying to unite the country and make everyone happy, and just go for it… fuck the haters. That's the one thing people liked about Bush-- he did things. They were horrible things, but at least stuff happened.

      Unfortunately, it's always more glamourous and exciting to smash everything to bits than to desperately try to clean up what has become an impossible mess after a long, brutal 8 years of complete mismanagement and utter incompetence-- this is why Obama is not being portrayed as a great president, because he inherited a f--king mess and became a janitor for everyone's retarded, indebted, entitled BS. You might notice that Clinton breezed through his 8 years with almost no major incidents except a ridiculous sex scandal that had no bearing on his leadership skills, while Bush created all kinds of drama and BS and basically threatened the stability of the entire world… and now Obama is trying to pick up the pieces, figure out how they all go together, and then glue it back into something resembling what it once was.

      All of the Republican Presidents of the past 30 years have been horrifying, terrifying monsters who do dangerous things and create problems for the entire world. Reagan was probably the absolute worst, and the one who started all the BS that Obama has to clean up. He was popular because he was a movie star but in reality he brought the world closer to nuclear holocaust than it had been since Kennedy (when people thought that it was actually possible to survive nuclear wars)… seriously, the man aggressively courted the extinction of the human race and everyone thought he was wonderful… meanwhile, he also set into motion the Wall Street predators that have now multiplied into a virus destroying the entire world with greed and cocaine and psychopathic urges, causing crashes for fun and profit, and laughing at the suckers who keep on voting in their guys.

      I don't even think the people who vote for Romney have actual reasons-- they just think that he's on 'their side', like a bunch of alcoholics cheering for a football team or something.
      I agree with all of this!
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      Re: Presidential Debate

      Quote Originally Posted by lightbeam View Post
      You can blame Bush for this catastrophe. Oh wait... he did nothing wrong when Haliburton put more money in his pocket, or BP drilling for oil (look at what happened there). But yeah, Bush caused all the problems, and you want another Republican in the white house?? Romney will fuck it up even more than Bush did! We had a surplus of money when Clinton was in office. I don't care how much you try to paint pubs in a bright light. They are corrupt, and always looking out for themselves. Romney is not different.
      Bush hasn't been President since Jan 20, 2009! So leave Bush out of it. Bush was a big spender but nothing compared to Obama.
      Obama is on the one who has got us into the mess we are in end of story. Romney will work on improving America as he cares. Obama is a destroyer and doesn't give a damn about America he is following his father's dream which is to destroy America. Let's just agree to disagree.

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      Re: Presidential Debate

      Quote Originally Posted by gloomy View Post
      Oh really?

      Oil workers lead the way as U.S. wages climb

      http://finance.yahoo.com/news/oil-wo...095700957.html

      U.S. jobless claims fall to lowest in four and a half years





      http://finance.yahoo.com/news/jobles...123427605.html

      Obama has done everything he possibly could in order to pull your country out of the mess that W created. And yes, W was responsible-- he knew that deregulation of Wall Street was creating a monster but he didn't care, because they were his friends. Enron alone was proof that deregulation was creating a culture of financial predators, but since they were his best buds he thought that it would be a good idea to stay the course. So then we had the 2008 crash that happened because no one was paying attention and Bush was busy constructing his fascist nightmare state which you still haven't been able to escape and probably never will... so it was all-too-easy to dismiss Enron as just a blip, because of course you can always trust Wall Street not to do it again.

      Romney is trying to convince everyone that things are not improving and that he has the fastest, easiest answer to a problem that's already going away-- but the thing is, there is no fast an easy answer to the absolute disaster that was W… and if there is an answer, it's definitely not to pretend that his presidency wasn't destructive, or that Wall Street will ever stop being greedy.

      Romney has already promised to reverse every single regulation that Obama has tried to force onto Wall Street and allow his best friends to destroy the global economy with their greed. Anyone who is not already rich will be completely destroyed and no one will be able to help them. 2008 will happen again-- but worse… and then what? Another bailout? All of Wall Street needs to be put under martial law and constantly policed by military agents who will shoot anyone who gets out of line.

      If anything, Obama's biggest problem is that he's been too half-assed about everything… I hope if he gets re-elected he stops being such an idealist and becomes like the anti-Bush. W didn't listen to ANYONE and did whatever he pleased, neither should Obama. He should stop trying to unite the country and make everyone happy, and just go for it… fuck the haters. That's the one thing people liked about Bush-- he did things. They were horrible things, but at least stuff happened.

      Unfortunately, it's always more glamourous and exciting to smash everything to bits than to desperately try to clean up what has become an impossible mess after a long, brutal 8 years of complete mismanagement and utter incompetence-- this is why Obama is not being portrayed as a great president, because he inherited a f--king mess and became a janitor for everyone's retarded, indebted, entitled BS. You might notice that Clinton breezed through his 8 years with almost no major incidents except a ridiculous sex scandal that had no bearing on his leadership skills, while Bush created all kinds of drama and BS and basically threatened the stability of the entire world… and now Obama is trying to pick up the pieces, figure out how they all go together, and then glue it back into something resembling what it once was.

      All of the Republican Presidents of the past 30 years have been horrifying, terrifying monsters who do dangerous things and create problems for the entire world. Reagan was probably the absolute worst, and the one who started all the BS that Obama has to clean up. He was popular because he was a movie star but in reality he brought the world closer to nuclear holocaust than it had been since Kennedy (when people thought that it was actually possible to survive nuclear wars)… seriously, the man aggressively courted the extinction of the human race and everyone thought he was wonderful… meanwhile, he also set into motion the Wall Street predators that have now multiplied into a virus destroying the entire world with greed and cocaine and psychopathic urges, causing crashes for fun and profit, and laughing at the suckers who keep on voting in their guys.

      I don't even think the people who vote for Romney have actual reasons-- they just think that he's on 'their side', like a bunch of alcoholics cheering for a football team or something.

      Obama hasn't done anything that he should of done. He's only done what he had intended to do.

      Obama is trying to make some quick slight improvements only as he wants to be re-elected. Things will continue to downward spiral if he is elected again.

      Gas prices still keep rising and will only get worse with Obama in office along with everything else.

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      Re: Presidential Debate

      Quote Originally Posted by Autumn01 View Post
      Bush hasn't been President since Jan 20, 2009! So leave Bush out of it. Bush was a big spender but nothing compared to Obama.
      Obama is on the one who has got us into the mess we are in end of story. Romney will work on improving America as he cares. Obama is a destroyer and doesn't give a damn about America he is following his father's dream which is to destroy America. Let's just agree to disagree.
      Pardon me???

      His *father's* dream was to destroy America??? Is this coming from the fact that his name was Barack? loooooooooooooooooooool!!!

      Are you one of those that believe Obama wasn't born in Hawaii, but an Islamic state??
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      Re: Presidential Debate

      AND it begins, as usual. Why even bother with these ignorant ass racists. Autumn01, you don't know a single thing about this man's father. He has nothing to do with the policies in this country. Please tell me more about how his father wants to destroy America.

      I don't support Obama, I didn't vote for him in 2008 and won't in 2012, but at least I have a reasonable foundation for my opposition. You are merely an ignorant ass racist. Sorry, but that is a stupid thing to say: "His father wants to destroy America"? Post more nonsense.

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