13 year old girl jailed for shoplifting

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  1. The_8th_Wonder

    The_8th_Wonder senior Member

    Girl, 13, is locked up for two weeks - A 13-year-old girl suspected of shoplifting should not have been left among other inmates at Dallas County Jail for 13 days, her father says.

    Joe Lewis said his daughter Jasmine could have been hurt during her nearly two-weeklong stay at the jail, where she finally was released on probation July 23, The Dallas Morning News said Friday.

    "It doesn't make any sense to have a 13-year-old in there," Lewis said. "They could have killed her. Something bad could have happened. She doesn't look 17. She looks 13, and I wonder why they didn't see that."

    insist Jasmine Lewis informed officers she was 17 not 13 and was not carrying any identification featuring her true age.

    Senior Cpl. Roberto Garcia told the Morning News such age conflicts can cause confusion when dealing with younger suspects.

    "It's just the frustrating battle that we have out there in the real world," Garcia said. "I just have a heck of a time when these juveniles won't tell you who they are and they have no ID."

    The younger Lewis was reported as a runaway by her father on July 10, the same day she and a 20-year-old were arrested on shoplifting charges at a Dallas store.

  2. reefer madness

    reefer madness Account Closed

    Guess she shouldn't have lied about her age.
  3. cult logic

    cult logic Staff Alumni

    What's there to say?

    She suffered due to her own idiocy.
  4. elvinchild

    elvinchild Well-Known Member

    But still, jail for a 13 year old shoplifting? It might have been a bad idea, but the punishment seems a little severe..
  5. ashes_away

    ashes_away Well-Known Member

    I don't believe for a second she looked 17,like her father said.She looked 13.Even at 17..to be put in with adult criminals is harsh for shoplifting.No excuse for locking her up that way! None!
  6. Hurted

    Hurted Well-Known Member

    Oh dear... welcome to the USA. :unsure:
  7. just.me

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    you know, some people in USA think that USA is too harsh when it comes to criminals
    but what they don't know is that there are country's where citizens
    are in awe of the USA law enforcement basically because in many country's
    criminals are free to do as they like and the law enforcement, even though they are around
    they don't do much...
    And even if the criminals are arrested, they are released after 6 to 12 months
    for things like killing others (by so called accident) or 3-5 years for murdering
    but then they are released after just 1 year for good behavior.
  8. Hurted

    Hurted Well-Known Member

    I know that USA has stricter punishments than most other countries and agree with this.

    But locking up the 13 year old girls is sick.
  9. aoeu

    aoeu Well-Known Member

    That's pretty fucked up.
  10. Zurkhardo

    Zurkhardo Well-Known Member

    Even if she were 17, two weeks in jail is quite a bit of time for petty theft, even by national standards. Most states might leave you there for a day or two at most and mostly punish you through community service, a fine, or in some cases probation. Perhaps if she had a hefty rap sheet I could understand incarceration, but even then it shouldn't be in any old jailhouse.

    Then again we must recall that this is Texas, which has a history of strict law enforcement (though it was eased up on it a little bit as of late).
  11. Mikeintx

    Mikeintx Well-Known Member

    Ok, you guys have to understand that this is Dallas. The same city were last summer it was common to see on the news just about every day that cars were being set on fire in broad daylight(were later it was found out these were groups of teenagers setting the fires) and pretty consistent stabbings and shootings.

    I dont agree that it was right what happened, but there are many teens that are 13-14 that look like they are in their late teens, early twenties. If she lied about her age and had no id and there was no way to track down her family to identify her, then I can understand the reasoning with this. Also since she was with a 20 year old when she was arrested it isnt that surprising they thought she was older.
  12. xan

    xan Chat Buddy

    1. Serves her fucking right for being stupid enough to shop lift and stupid enough to lie. She would have had chances to give her true age and contact her father who could have brought ID but she was stubborn and served the time for it.

    2. Why do people get locked up for crimes like theft? It costs the tax payers money to keep them there, make them work, pick up litter, clean the streets, anything that would make them put money back into society rather than taking more out...
  13. Tray

    Tray Well-Known Member

    well looks or not there is nothing else they can do.. If she says she's 17 and doesnt give ID or contact info for her parents then well there is nothing else to go on.

    Two weeks may seem long but it all depends on how long it would take to process her and do whatever to settle it. I wonder if she tried to tell them after getting put in.
  14. necrodude

    necrodude Well-Known Member

    the kids a thief. simple. she broke the law and got punished. i dont doubt she had a reason, (she just wanted it, probably). but that doesnt bother me. what bothers me is the fact she could have earned the cash to buy it or done CS to repay the debt. jail doesnt work anymore. its a palace compared to outside. if alternatives were better considered and more available such as giving people an option to either work the debt off with no criminal record or jail with one etc, then young peoples lives would not be so readily ruined by those trying to save them. not that the soft way works always, but more options are needed including the criminals choice of rehabilitation (with strict rules).
  15. xan

    xan Chat Buddy

    Just another thought... there are some countries where thiefs have their hand cut off... so erm.. 2 weeks in jail is a walk in the park :p
  16. Axiom

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    Wanted to say, comparing a contraversial event to horrible events elsewhere shows a lack of understanding to me and a shit view of what we can become. We are better than cutting peoples hands off, and we are striveing to be better. How can you compare inhuman "laws" to the newage "laws" of today? We're trying to better ourselves, not chain ourselves down.

    And by the way, 1 day in jail is no "walk in the park". And she's a kid.
  17. iKarma

    iKarma Well-Known Member

    She shouldn't have been so stupid than. Regardless of her age, she broke the law, and continued to be stupid after the fact. She got what she deserved. But knowing this, a think a lawsuit is coming.
  18. aoeu

    aoeu Well-Known Member

    Hey, wait, here's a question: trial?
  19. iKarma

    iKarma Well-Known Member

    Can't do that until you formally charge someone. And you can't do that, until you know who they are.
  20. Axiom

    Axiom Account Closed

    Stupid yes. I'm not being funny, but a 13 year old rarely looks 17, but put that aside. Did the police keep her in jail after they knew her age? They have a legal and moral obligation to remove her from jail and contact social services.
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