do you think something major will happen on the date Dec, 23 2012? before you post your thoughts, lets give this subject some serious discussions. for one we need to realize that this exact date has been and is in the koran bible, the hopi proficy, the mayan cycle, the sumaritian texts, the iching,etc. many of these are people and religions from many years apart and many miles apart from each other, so how or why do they all say that day? would love to hear everyones thoughts on this... now i know most say it will be like a y2k thing, well no not really, because y2k had to deal with computers freezing everything up and everything shutting down, a major man-made problem, but. 2012 is not a manmade problem. it deals with the stars and the earth. we are right now seeing an increase in bad weather, so what is causing all this? is it really the end in 2012? in the bible it says no one will know the exact date nor time, but it does give us signs. 1- when you hear of wars and rumors of wars, 2 - earthquakes in divers places ( in the oceans ) remember these things must come to pass, like a lady about to give birth, each time her pains increase we will see an increase in hurricans, floods, fires, earthwquakes, etc when the fig leaf brings forth her fruit know that it is near even at the door.. this is in the springtime, so spring marks that it is near.. also it says that the world will see such a disaster as has never been seen before nor ever will be. the above was taken from the bible.. now, what about the samertian text of a planet called nibiru? it is supposedly on a collision course with us, and it colled with earth a while back that was once called tiamet, it broke into and thus is why we now have the earth. sciebtists will confirm a part of this earth has been destroyed and knoced off, are the summeritians right? if so then the planet nibiru on it's next approach will consume us all. now nibiru is supposedly a second sun, it is like a huge fireball up there headed right to us, now imagine us the size of a golff ball being thrown into a bowling ball of fire, imagine taking a piece of paper and throwing it into the fire, it gets burned up right? well now imagine them taking a pencil and rolling it up inside that paper and throwing it into the fire, what happens to that pencil? it gets burned up as well, and so these goverment people building these underground bases are not going to be spared.. bible says God is a consuming fire, a flaming sword,It says men in the last days will run into the mountains and say fall on me and hide me from the face of God. but then it says unless these days be shortened no man would be alive.. it also says that the Lord will not destroy the earth by water anymore but by fire.. the earth and the works thereof shall be burned up.. now scientific evidence... mars, venus, uranis, neptune, are heating up and the sun's extensive solar flares which will peak in 2012. the anartica is melting faster and faster, new doormat volcanoes are now getting active, and nasa has confirmed that every 3600 years something on earth takes place, and they have confirmed pole shifts.. now what is going on? are we about to be witness to a major event in our time? all thoughts will be accepted. let's see if we can figure this out together..