After affects of suicide.

Discussion in 'After Effects' started by Zebli, Jan 15, 2007.

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  1. Zebli

    Zebli Member

    First. Mod, please put this where ever it should be, I wasn't sure.

    And, I am only saying this to let people know, the stylized versions of suicde on tv/movies... are not real, and the results are not real. We see it so much in one media or another that it because a plausible thing to do... but I assure you... it is not.

    I have had a few family members attempt suicide, living of course, and the after effects were far reaching, family, life,...

    I wish people knew that idiotic stylized suicide you see on TV, movies, or the internet DOES NOT WORK, and is not worth while.

    Cutting your wrists is not gracefull.... in fact, near impossible for most to reach <Mod edit: Abacus21 - method>.

    Taking pills is very very damaging. You can lose your liver, and you will be stuck in the hospital for a week or more, then possibly forced to see a consoler. This is not a reliable way to go! Its painfull, and not likely. If you take too much, the first thing you do (awake or asleep) is vomit.

    Shooting yourself in the head. Oh my god, living though that is very likely unless you know what your doing with the right equipment. There is no greater hell on earth that I can imagine then living though that.

    Poison... drinking too much.... (see taking pills, same thing).

    Again, I just say this to let me know if they dont already, that it is not as easy, or relaxing, or certain as it is commercialized. Do not try these things, at the very least, because it just damages your body, and doesnt solve anything.
     
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  2. lostcat95

    lostcat95 Guest

    very true
     
  3. amicus

    amicus Antiquitie's Friend

    Thanks so much Zebli for letting me, us, know that TV is not real. We are fortunate to have you let us know suicide is idiotic. I am happy that we finally found someone who can discern what works and what doesn't. Moreover, your obvious dedication to Emily Post's guide to etiquette proved fruitfull for us all. I didn't know wrist cutting was not gracefull. Your seemingly experienced opinion on each and every category is outstanding. It must be difficult for you to have experienced all these things. Welcome to the professional's building.
     
  4. amicus

    amicus Antiquitie's Friend

    Please disregard my stupid, smart ass. I didn't know.
     
  5. Zebli

    Zebli Member

    I wont disregard it. I have had a few family try various ways, and it was very sad watching the aftereffects. I did much research before I chose what to do. I know most people know its not fancy, but maybe someone will think twice about attempting these things.

    Also, I didnt say suicide is idiotic.
     
  6. gitana

    gitana SF Friend & Antiquitie's Friend Staff Alumni

    Welcome, Zebli! I have been there alot and you are definitely right.. regarding tv/movies..about suicide..

    I have experienced alot of loss in my life since I was 5. 9 are suicides.. family and very close friends..and yes, I know, other people, friends with in the past, losing close ppl to them to suicide and the aftermath.. yeah, not going into much detail, that even using a gun, doesn't mean that it will work.. I know a couple people and it is scary, however, when one loses all hope, one may try whatever.. anyway, no matter what.. hurting so very deeply and llife seems to be beyond hope..


    Even if one knows and thinks that they are using the "right equipment" it doesn't mean that one will work.. and so therefore, one may become a vegetable, or paralyzed, etc. I know.. have been there..

    Well, I appreciate your input and letting others know, what could happen, no matter what one thinks about how to do it..

    I remember, several of my fav actresses, who suicided.. I remenber one actress who planned it out, and not going there in description, seemed, like wow.. and attractive but extremely sad.. and grew up with this when young..

    I know you mean well, and it is difficult for a person when in this phase of feeling suicidal and seeing no hope at all, no light at the end of the tunnel, a suicidal trance, so difficult when people are dealing with so much devastation in one's life..

    We need to talk them through it, to help them focus on, that there are people who really care about them.. Yeah, speaking from experience..
    and we are here for them.. to listen, to reach out, understanding, and so much more here.. walk with the person through this time and convince them that we really do care.. and some may need to receive counseling or pdoc and maybe that medication will help..

    Just some thoughts.. Thank yoiu for your input.. that is why we are here..

    Gitana..
     
  7. kath

    kath Well-Known Member

    i think there can be a lot of after effects to attempting suicide.Both physical and mental [if you survive] and how your life can change too.

    There certainly could be very many different physical ones.
     
  8. gentlelady

    gentlelady Staff Alumni

    You are right. It seems that they glorify suicide in the media, be it the tragic effects it has on the survivors and the intense emotions, or the drama associated when the person is found. There is noting glorious about it in any way. But that is what sells so that is what is portrayed. Even though the feelings are there so many times, I know that it truly should not be an option. It is not at all what we see.
     
  9. ***LEA***

    ***LEA*** Guest

    I think it's strange that everybody says you should think very carefully about suicide attempts. If you are contemplating suicide then, surely you are not thinking rationally anyway are you?
    We all know about suicide, methods, after effects etc....we all know its bad stuff. But, does that really play a role when the urge to die takes a hold? Does it matter what anybody says to put you off?:huh:
    I knew all this but, it didn't stop me trying. I think the best thing is to drum it into people that this phase will pass. Tomorrow you might not feel like dying, wait a week and see how you feel then.
    After all life is very uncertain, anything can happen in that week. Who knows? your life could change dramatically for the better:smile:
    We all live in hope:biggrin:
    love, Lea x x x
     
  10. bEvans

    bEvans Active Member

    that's extremely well said, hade.
     
  11. ***LEA***

    ***LEA*** Guest

    Thankyou bEvans!
     
  12. worlds edge

    worlds edge Well-Known Member

    I think all it means is that you're not thinking like most other people. I don't think someone contemplating suicide is necesarrily irrational, though they certainly can be.

    If someone has concluded that life is not worth living presumably they'll be willing to do what is necessary to achieve the end they seek. People are often willing to pass through pain to achieve an end they want.

    I think that's a fair statement, that suicide is not something anyone should rush into. However, I also think, hmmm, not sure how to put this politely, that there's a bit of intellectual dishonesty at work when someone is told this. As in if they still feel like dying in a week or a month or year would it be okay after waiting that amount of time? After all, they did as they were requested to do. The presumption seems to be that if the suicidal individual waits long enough they'll snap out of it. Which in fact may be the case more often than not, but has always struck me as rather patronizing.

    We all need to find our own way.
     
  13. ***LEA***

    ***LEA*** Guest

    Yes Gmork, Isee what you are saying but, i was just letting off steam and saying how it was for me. In future I will wait and see how i feel at a later date rather than rush into anything again. Lea x:dry:
     
  14. worlds edge

    worlds edge Well-Known Member

    I think what you're saying not only makes sense for you, it does for most.

    I'm just not so sure it does for me.

    I wasn't trying to criticize what you were saying, honest, just trying to offer a different perspective. If I came on too strong I apologize. Didn't mean to.
     
  15. ***LEA***

    ***LEA*** Guest

    No you're ok Gmork, you didn't come on too strong. I didn't think i explained myself properly, i made it sound too general didn't I? :laugh:
    My experience is that nobody could have said anything to stop me ODing last week. As a consequence I ended up in hospital for 6 days and now have to see a liver specialist. The only thing that would stop me if the situation arose again would probably be to wait a few days at least and then see how I feel. Chances are that I would change my mind or back out on another day.
    Take care Gmork, love from Lea x :smile:
     
  16. PoetMan

    PoetMan Well-Known Member

    The worst part about living through my attempts has been getting yelled at by my mom for doing something so selfish. I had an uncle who killed himself and so my family is very tough on suicidal behavior.

    It actually made me feel better to come through the other side of my last attempt because it created a false sense of invincibility. I've tried a few different ways and here's what I think is wrong with them:

    Hanging: I'm not sure why, but all it's ever done is made me pass out.

    Slit wrists: VERY painful, and not fatal if you do it wrong.

    Pills: Unreliable.

    Suffocation: Not only painful but too easy to undo. You can't smother yourself with a pillow.

    Poison: If you don't take something deadly like <mod edit: bunny - methods> it'll just make you very sick, and can cause internal damage.

    My conclusion: Dying's too hard. Might as well live.
     
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