i just tried. twice. it got me two weeks in the hospital and cost me my therapist of many years. i've tried before, several times. different method though. until now, i hadn't tried in 9 years. if i could figure out how to get it done 100%, i'd do it. i'm done with failed attempts. i'm done with m1's and the typical hospital psycho babble. 20 times still haven't gotten me anywhere.