Are most people going to hell?

Discussion in 'Soap Box' started by fred_phelps, Nov 8, 2008.

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  1. fred_phelps

    fred_phelps Guest

    I know this website, (as well as most others), has a zero-tolerance policy on fire and brimstone Christianity, but will tolerate almost any other filth.

    Anyways, I am studying the bible, and it clearly says that most of mankind will go to hell.

    If you're an atheist or whatever, or ''nothing'', or unsure, or you've chosen a unique foreign exotic religion, because it's trendy now-a-days, that's your business.

    Those atheists that are into science and philosophy, and that think they know everything there is to know, and that religion is to be hated...go on to another thread - we've heard it all before.

    I will share my views here on hell, and religion. If that's allowed?

    Let's begin with the fall, or the original sin.

    I'll draw here a parallel; it's hypothetical.

    Humans belong in the wild, where they are to follow their urges: sleep, eat, procreate, etc.

    The wild-civilization transition in my mind could be the FALL - it's allegorical.

    We brought our beastly instincts into a civilized context, where we have consciences.

    Here, 2 options arise:

    Hedonism: perversion of natural instincts. Masking the procreational purpose of sex to indulge in depraved sexual conduct, and other things.

    Religion: seeing yourself as having a soul, viewing sin as an offense to the soul, resisting sin, REPENTING from sin.

    We have a sexual impulse, because in the wild, we're basically brainless, and all we do is follow our urge for a PURPOSE.

    If you mask the PURPOSE with condoms and other forms of birth control, ur being irrational, and thats quite unnatural, and hedonistic, and it offends those of the soul, ur of the body, if u belong in the first category.

    So, after the fall, mankind became hellbound. We're ''dead in sin'', totally depraved, unable on our own to understand or choose God. We're ''blind''.

    Now, God gives sight or election to some, we're a big mass of perdition...When He elects you you can't resist. He gives you sight, you automatically see.

    Those who are blind don't understand colours.
    The ''reprobates'' don't understand concepts like sin or souls...

    They are basically hedonists, they seek perverted pleasure, and they are simpletons, because they have a sort of nihilistic perspective of life.

    Scientists and philosophers are men trying to figure out God's creation. It's limited, and it's error-ridden, anyways.

    I think we are living in more sinful times than old Sodom, which God destroyed.

    I think the end is near. The west is on the verge of an insane breakdown.

    In Canada and Europe, they're jailing priests for preaching (homophobic verses), while they're allowing gays to marry, and women to abort, and whorehouses, it's disgusting.

    God tells you to come out from the world. The world is one, it's a bland, and it's all going to hell.

    If u don't like people, if u don't like what u see, please come out.

    Some of you surely must have pure souls, are u longing for moral pureness, are u inhabited by something which transcends all of this non-sense.

    Hell lasts forever, it's serious business.

    Now, if ur gonna tell me ''i dont believe in God or hell, therefore this doesnt apply to me'', ill suggest u get out of ur little box.

    I just said that if u think it doesnt apply to u, u may have a reprobate mind.
     
  2. aoeu

    aoeu Well-Known Member

    There's no rule against this that I'm aware. Damning everyone on the forum is generally frowned upon for obvious reasons, though. Believe what you want... But don't force it on others.

    Oh, and it pisses me off when CHRISTIANS quote the Old Testament to support their ideas - and only selectively. No Christian believes that shellfish shouldn't be eaten - but many are willing to accept that homosexuals are morally repugnant.

    Christianity OUGHT to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ, namely:
    1. Hold nothing above the Lord
    2. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you

    Neither of those supports persecuting homosexuals.
     
  3. fred_phelps

    fred_phelps Guest

    not eating certain foods, and or not wearing certain fabrics were ceremonial laws for Jews...

    Jesus only re-inforced the moral laws: no to incest, adultery, homosexuality, and so on.

    Homosexuality, in my view, and in 98% of peoples view in the world is wrong.

    the bible does say that most go to hell.

    I'll have to disagree with you, most people today pervert 5 verses.

    cast the first stone... God is love...

    the more sinful one country gets, the more it preaches on love...

    no one wants to hear anything other than what makes them feel good

    the bible says to rebuke reprobe, to be instant in and out of season, to tell the nations about their abominations

    and to love one neighbor, the bible says its to warn the neighbor that his sins are taking him to hell

    it seems that those 5 perverted verses are only used to shut faithful christians up, and to justify sin
     
  4. Wow. Skipped it. :dry:

    With a username like that, it's just as well.
    Recommend other do the same...
     
  5. aoeu

    aoeu Well-Known Member

    Find me a single verse where Jesus encourages people to persecute homosexuals.

    And, Jesus doesn't "only re-inforce" anything. He is the final word of God as viewed by Christians.
     
  6. fred_phelps

    fred_phelps Guest

    in the bible, we are told to kill homosexuals in leviticus, God also calls homsexuals, natural brute beasts, and it says that men lying with men would suffer within themselves a penalty they so richly deserve, if u need the verses, ill post them.
     
  7. aoeu

    aoeu Well-Known Member

    I don't WANT those verses.

    That's the Old Testament. Christ supercedes that for CHRISTIANS. "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" is not the same as "KILL FAGGOTS!!1"

    If you ignore Christ for the Old Testament, you are perverting God's word.
     
  8. fred_phelps

    fred_phelps Guest

    Do unto others as you would have them do unto you???

    where did u read that?

    lets not get into a theological debate, ull lose
     
  9. fred_phelps

    fred_phelps Guest

    no christian can dismiss the old testament
     
  10. aoeu

    aoeu Well-Known Member

    But they can eat shellfish freely?
     
  11. fred_phelps

    fred_phelps Guest

    Gods love is conditionned upon repentence

    99% are unable to repent

    when ur of the soul, and u view sin as an offense, u hate it, resist it, and repent from it

    when u love sin, and justify sin, and indulge in sin, ur bound for hell

    and telling people the truth is the highest form of love

    not tolerating and enabling homosexuals, and comforting the wicked in their filth, take a look around, God says not to love the world
     
  12. fred_phelps

    fred_phelps Guest

    i think i told u that the Mosaic ceremonial laws were done away with
     
  13. aoeu

    aoeu Well-Known Member

    "Therefore, whatever you want men to do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets." (Matthew 7:12)
     
  14. fred_phelps

    fred_phelps Guest

    Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? Matthew 23:33
     
  15. aoeu

    aoeu Well-Known Member

    I just produced a direct quote from Jesus Christ stating that you oughtn't stone faggots unless you'd like to be stoned yourself.

    This debate is over. People like you are going to Hell for not listening to Jesus Christ.
     
  16. Malcontent

    Malcontent Staff Alumni

    Hang on, if 98% of people think homosexuality is wrong then how come so many people are destined for hell for being gay or thinking homosexuality is ok? It must have taken you a long time to interview everybody in the whole world about their views on homosexuality, I shudder to think what ridiculous percentage you could have come up with if you'd just used the first figure that popped into your head. That would've just made you look silly.

    If god condems people to hell just for falling in love with a member of their own sex, using contraception, or being the best person they can be but just not believing in god then I would rather go to hell. You've warned your neighbours of their sins, your work here is done, you can go now. My soul is prepared for whatever awaits it, I can't help wonder how your hate-filled one will be recieved.

    Regards,
    Depraved, perverted, hedonist and proud.
     
  17. fred_phelps

    fred_phelps Guest

    its funny how uve distorted that verse
     
  18. fred_phelps

    fred_phelps Guest

    second chatter, of course ud rather go to hell, that was my point

    thats where most people go, they cant meet Gods standards

    a penis fits into a vagina, and releases something to give life

    a penis in an ass is irrational, ass is the exit to fecal matter
     
  19. fred_phelps

    fred_phelps Guest

    thank you malcontent, uve proven all my points
     
  20. Abacus21

    Abacus21 Staff Alumni

    Excuse me, my good sir, but have you come here purely to talk about God?
     
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