Oh can I just also point out.. I know this isn't really the place for it, but Est (I know she isn't the only one) constantly punishes and blames herself for stuff she feels is her fault, despite the assurances of her friends that it isn't. Please, please, please, please don't trigger one member, trying to protect another. P.S. I really, really hate finding active threads getting closed, I think it is very childish, people should have the right to express their opinions. Sorry, I truly don't want to start another fight, I know I upset a lot of people before. I'll try and shut up, If you wanna ban me for the night then go ahead, cos I was ready to crash earlier and took pills to stop it, so now I'm probably going to just get angrier.