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Censorship on chat

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iliketomix

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You know, I like some of the people here, but I really don't know if this place is worth my time anymore.

I've spent many hours assisting people through crisis, ask fweeps or anonymous - they've been there too, but I've been banned from the chat for a second time due to "sexual conversations".

I understand that some people take issue with things like this, but you know - some of us here are adults. Some of us aren't uptight busybodies who like to impose our values on other people, but sadly - people like this generally don't want to be admins/mods.

I understand that some people may have experienced sexual trauma, but we're in the real world here, and nothing that's said here isn't heard on televisions, radio shows, and playgrounds around the world.

So if I'm banned again, I'm banned, whatever - people know how to get in touch with me. I don't have the time nor the inclination to create my own chat room, but maybe there should be a room where the adults can talk, because I spend all my freaking time singing "Row row row your boat" and changing diapers, when I get a bit of free time to chat and I'm not talking someone out of eating a handful of pills I'd like to have an adult conversation here or there.

PS: If you don't like what someone's saying, IGNORE THEM! I don't like what a lot of people say, I don't go bitching to a mod or requesting a ban. Seriously, get over yourselves. (And to the people who ask me if I'd like my child to read sexual content: Yes I will have an open and honest relationship and discussions with my child regarding human bodies and what people do with them before he's allowed to access the internet.)
 
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SmilePretty

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no body requested a ban.
believe it or not i thought that one up on my own.

we have tried to have an adult room which only led to "cybering"
 
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aoeu

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It's clearly stated to be against the rules. Don't do it. Or leave.

I didn't follow the rules so I'm on FAO, with Moderation having been lifted a short while back.
 
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iliketomix

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You had the simple option of acting like an adult and saying: "Hey, I'm uncomfortable with this." Instead, you simply pulled out the "I'm banning you and letting someone else deal with it" card.

You could have resolved the situation amicably, instead you choose a reactionary and punitive way of dealing with the situation - but hey I wouldn't have been surprised by this if you pulled out the "I'm a cheerleader" card.

There a bucketload of irony here.
 
Marshmallow

Marshmallow

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Firstly if you have a problem with the rules then you should take it LTM where an admin will discuss it with you. The rules are set in place for the safety of the people on this site, no one is excused from this rule. You said this is your second time being banned for sexual banter, i would of thought that you would of took on board what was said to you the first time?

Everyone here deals with talking people out of things but that does not allow you or anyone else to talk the way you did (i have seen what you said in the chat lobby) and there is no excuse for it. You were banned for it once before, you know full that subjects like that are not allowed in chat.

If you want to have 'adult' convosations then there are other sites aswell as other instant messengers that you can use for such activities. There was an adult room in chat before and it got way out of hand. Now there is no sexual banter allowed at all in chat.

If you have a problem with the way it was handle then write to LTM or an admin. There is no reason for this to be posted on the forum.

The rules are there for a reason.
 
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SmilePretty

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you sit there and insult me in a PM
when i came up to you and said that what you were talking about in chat was inappropriate. its your own fault that you kept going on about it. I silenced you first out of niceness and was going to see if you would just end the conversation. you then decided to fight me on how its not inappropriate.

take responsibility for breaking the rules instead of pushing blame onto censorship and being an adult. there is a person in chat right now who is 13
and whether or not you would let your kids hear what you were saying...which i truly wish you dont...you arent other people's parent or guardian so you cant make those decisions for them.

and by banning you and letting someone else deal with it....
i cant make every decision in chat. sorry but i am not god. i like to see what other people think after i copy and paste the convo and PM's in order to see if my judgement was skewed. so i was doing you a favor in my opinion.
 
Marshmallow

Marshmallow

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Can you take this to LTM please? It will be discussed there. Theres no need for the thread to be here or snipe at each other.

Put simply, what you said was inappropriate and you should of known that from your first ban. Having been banned the first time, you knew what you was risking.

This has nothing to do with her being a cheerleader, you broke the rules and you have a ban from chat as a result. Like i said before, you if have a problem with the way it was dealt with then the logs can be checked and it will be dealt with appropriately.
 
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aoeu

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This is not a government. This is not tyrannical. You are not required to be here, and you do not get rights except those extended by SF.

And personal attacks will get you nowhere. I don't believe that cheerleaders are banned by the forum rules, I could be wrong.
 
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iliketomix

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aoeu said:
This is not a government. This is not tyrannical. You are not required to be here, and you do not get rights except those extended by SF.

And personal attacks will get you nowhere. I don't believe that cheerleaders are banned by the forum rules, I could be wrong.
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I'm not attacking her, I just said it's ironic. Turn your defense-o-meter off.

Regardless, I'm aware I can be tactless - and I can go somewhere else with a different TOS - But I've actually helped people here. I've survived, and I've learned something along the way that I believe should be passed on to others.

Look, I realize the rules are there for a reason - but I think they're wrong. Plain and simple.

I'll use nurses as an example. These people dedicate their lives to helping people, and see difficult things. How do they cope? A sick sense of humor. Nurses, paramedics, firefighters - sexually morbid senses of humor. It's the way it works in the real world. I understand this is the internet and not the "real world" but the same thing applies. It's the world we live in. I understand children should not be exposed to certain things - hell, I unplug all the TVs in the house when my kid is here.

Sometimes a rule or law created with good faith becomes an impedance. I'll use therapy as my second example - You're not going to heal without full disclosure - and maybe, just maybe - we should consider an option for people to discuss things that THEY are comfortable with. If people start having sex in public - do you ban sex, or sex in public? Who's the judge? I'm saying we need an unrestricted medium here for people who aren't quite as sensitive as the rest.
 
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iliketomix

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And PS, I'm here because I think this site has some value and is a great resource for people unable to access other forms of assistance - otherwise I wouldn't be typing on the internet with a beer and a gir... wait a second.. haha OK I'm being requested to DJ, food for thought!
 
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iliketomix

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haha OK IM BACK!

Try not to think of this place as what it's not - think of what it could be.

Besides, there may be run off benefits here- instead of chat I might become a board whore.. :P
 
Marshmallow

Marshmallow

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Wether you believe the rules to be wrong or right. They are in place and you either respect and follow them or you will end up being removed from chat like you were today. If you don't like the rules of this site then i can only suggest finding a site that will allow such banter.

This is a suicidal support site, not a place for you to discuss where you put your private parts into another person. I'm afraid that you have no one but yourself to blame, you knew that such subjects are not allowed in chat.

As i've said in my last two posts, don't like the rules then take it up with an admin but i very much doubt that it will be changed because you want to have an 'adult discussion' in your free time. There are 'certain' sites if you want to discuss things like that. It's not and never will be appropriate on this site.
 
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iliketomix

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You know it's kinda funny I was asking for advice regarding a situation and giving it context.

Sorry, anal is important to me. It's kind of a big deal.
 
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JBird

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your points are being ignored because 1: you aren't putting them across correctly and 2: you are insulting and attacking those that do answer.

You want some proper and answers and your points heard properly then stop being such a dick to everyone.
 
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shades

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iliketomix said:
And I love how all of my points have been completely ignored, and no one has the balls to pipe in. Lowest common denominator, I guess...
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What points? This is SF, "Suicide Forum" NOT "sexual forum". You either didn't read, or just flat out broke, THE RULES and or GUIDELINES. If you want to stay and sexual banter is important to you, send someone a pm and ask if they're ok with it, then continue in that manner if it is. Otherwise go search for a sexually based forum. THen you can help the friends you've made here in one manner and have whatever else you want at another site.

This site isn't going to be changed to fit YOUR NEEDS, nor should it be. Also, one of you "points" regarding an "unrestricted medium" was answered just fine by Smilepretty in post #2.
 
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