Common Sense Voices

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  1. coberst

    coberst Guest

    Common Sense Voices

    I claim that one cannot enter, for the first time, into the territory of some domains of knowledge while listening to common sense voices. Our common sense will immediately reject some facts because those facts are contrary to common sense.

    You must still these instinctive reactions because common sense knows nothing about many things. The physicist must still her common sense reaction at the results of some experiments regarding the inner working of the atom.

    The inner working of human nature can be as mysterious to common sense as is the inner reality of the atom.

    We can see only what we are prepared to see. Common sense does not prepare us to see many things. We have to creep up on certain matters and withhold judgment until we are intellectually sophisticated enough to judge their reality.
     
  2. JohnADreams

    JohnADreams Well-Known Member

    It depends what you mean by common sense. By my definition it is basic, logical knowledge that is shared and known by all. By this definition, you have to realize that it plays as much a part in gathering accurate knowledge as an open minded view does. As a filter for an individual's intellect, common sense rejects facts and falsehoods alike, just much more of the latter. Facts always return though, and will eventually be accepted no matter how uncomfortable that process may be.

    But through your argument, I think you mean to warn people against confirmation bias in favor of closely held cultural or scientific beliefs, even when the evidence opposes it? That makes sense.
     
  3. coberst

    coberst Guest

    John

    I am asking everyone to not have only a reject and an accept button but to add a hold until futher evidence button.


    It appears that most forum members consider anything written on the Internet forum is not a challenge to learn something new but is a challenge to engage in combat. I guess that our educational system must have handicapped us with this attitude. The desire to learn something new seems to be the last instinct we see.
     
  4. HappyAZaClaM

    HappyAZaClaM Guest

    combat is an exxageration. but ok, we'll use that word :smile:

    when the first post ever that a person posts on a given forum is as follows...

    it really looks as if some combat is your goal. the only "challenge" here is to
    a duel, or a mass duel. I asked you specifically what your point was. you did
    not answer.

    it looks as if you are referring to Obama winning the election as the
    "November 4th miracle" that is insulting and ridiculous. you haven't backed
    up that first thread with any intelligent or friendly comments. so don't be
    surprised when people think you are a troll. because that is what you are.
    albeit, an relatively intelligent and literate troll. but a troll by any other name
     
  5. JohnADreams

    JohnADreams Well-Known Member

    I can agree with that. It's was only on the nature of common sense that there was disagreement. :)

    I'm guilty of being combative. :biggrin: All information has to be subjected to criticism.
     
  6. coberst

    coberst Guest

    Common sense—the unreflective opinions of ordinary people
     
  7. JohnADreams

    JohnADreams Well-Known Member

    and to me:

    Common sense- Sound judgment not based on specialized knowledge; native good judgment. (dictionary.com)
    Which doesn't mean it cant be wrong, it's just judgment based on basic logical thought.

    Conventional wisdom-ideas or explanations that are generally accepted as true by the public or by experts in a field. The term implies that the ideas or explanations, though widely held, are unexamined and, hence, may be reevaluated upon further examination or as events unfold. (wikipedia)
    Which is similar to what I said earlier about closely held cultural or scientific beliefs.
     
  8. coberst

    coberst Guest

    John


    Common sense—the unreflective opinions of ordinary people

    This is the definition from my Webster's and this is what I meant in the OP by the phrase "common sense". Like most words one can find many different definitions apparently.

    Many people think that common sense is not common; they must be thinking about the definition "Sound judgment not based on specialized knowledge; native good judgment". I am inclined to agree.
     
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