Discussion in 'Soap Box' started by suicide_ideation, Oct 2, 2007.

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  1. I'm not an expert. I have a lot to learn. I'm only starting out.

    Can I summarize these 2 concepts.

    In Communism, we advance together, and help out the guy behind. In other words, we stop and go back, instead of running away from him, and leaving him to rot. Yeah, so that's a setback, in terms of economics, but a PLUS in terms of humanity. We're equal therefore, and think in terms of WE instead of I as in Capitalism. We run our own companies, etc. We have pride in our works, instead of being wage-slaves. Big bosses control the world, in capitalism, and dehumanize people. Capitalism is the recipe to reach economic and technological heights. U leave everyone to run for himself. Of course the least-equipped for this 'civilized' plus capitalist world, will fall behind, and die. Or live a stupid life. In capitalism, drugs and prostitution are an issue, and the door is always open for the unlucky, who were not given a lot by life, to enter porn, and more. No sense of brotherhood. We don't care about our neighbors.

    We're supposed to be civilized so dont tell me thats nature, survival of the fittest. humans as they evolve, their brains change and develop a sense of compassion. in the nature its different, animals are wild.

    maybe we need a balance, cuz some say people are selfish by nature and wont work for others, therefore communism wont advance a lot as a whole, even tho its the most humanist-friendly economic idealogy. so maybe we should set a balance somewhere, where we can advance to some extent, and leave a social net for the unlucky. Accomodate and help people.

    Which are you communist, BALANCED, or capitalist
  2. ~CazzaAngel~

    ~CazzaAngel~ Staff Alumni

    Isn't there already a post about this? :unsure:
  3. Blackness

    Blackness Guest

    I think there's evidence to prove neither are sucessful
  4. hammockmonkey

    hammockmonkey Well-Known Member

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  5. smackh2o

    smackh2o SF Supporter

    I :wub: polar bears
  6. Azul

    Azul Well-Known Member

    I would like a communism that doesn't need to be forced by authority, a spontaneous communism, kind of like the early christians... but that's very utopian, I realise.
  7. Esmeralda

    Esmeralda Well-Known Member

    Interesting point, Azul. That would certainly be utopian. I think if we could strike an appropriate balance without taking away people's individual freedom but while still being cognizant of the less-fortunate, that would be a good thing. Not sure it's practical, though.
  8. Azul

    Azul Well-Known Member

    "mixed economy" rulezzz !!!!
  9. me1

    me1 Well-Known Member

  10. protonaut

    protonaut Well-Known Member

    None of the above...

    Also, there will be problems with any current day political system.

    Societal conflicts aren't solely products of the system designs themselves. The roots lie in human nature. To take millions of humans with primal genes adapted for natural environments - group us all together in a society and expect everyone to function as one - there is a fundamental problem here.

    Remember Syd's old posts about an imbalance between technological and genetic evolution of humanity?

    Those of you familiar with Psychology know about the decades of research showing that the human brain (and personality) experiences profound developmental changes through infancy and childhood.

    What do you suppose occurs when we let all humans have sex freely, raise children on their own (regardless of experience, education, environment, etc) and then expect all these children from such diverse environments to get along?

    If you want a Utopia, give it up - it's not going to happen. Settle for feasible improvements, one step at a time. You could start off with a few areas like psychology, parenting, genetics, environmental studies.

    Millions of scientists around the world are already working in these areas.

    Guess what's slowing their progress? Funding. For starters, our society should focus more on education and science, and less on military.
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