I'm just wondering here, what makes a person suicidal? Does he qualify when he thinks about killing himself about 3 - 4 times a day but is took chickenshit to do it, or does he actually have to give it a whirl... cutting, eating or jumping off something (etc.) to be really suicidal. Then again, if you already give it a whirl, and you fail, then i guess that kinda means you really don't want to kill yourself, and subconciously you want to live, that's why you didn't go through with it. So which is it? The person who's too chickenshit to kill himself (aka yet again subconciously thinks there's something more... hmm or perhaps just is afraid of something) Or the person who failed at doing so. (for the reason above) Cause i'm guessing you can't call the person who successfully commited suicide suicidal... that person is just dead. Come to think of it, then there really aren't suicidal people in the world... there are the ones that are dead... and the ones who have something really messed up then their life or in their heads and they can't find any help. So, after this monologue-discussion... is a suicidal person then a person who really wont kill himself(herself), but instead a person who needs help sorting something out (cause otherwise he/she will just keep feeling crap for the rest of his/her life)?