I've been "depressed" since my tween years (suicide first occurred to me ~ 11 years old), and have had anxiety issues for basically my whole life (I started passing out in kindergarten from panic attacks, and initially self-injured in grade school). Honestly, I feel like some people just see the world differently. No amount of optimism can convince me that this world isn't broken and messed up, I just don't understand how "non-depressed" people don't see that. It seems like people who aren't depressed are either pretending or deluding themselves.. and once you acknowledge how messed up everything is, there's no going back. Maybe there's some people who all of a sudden exhibit depression symptoms, and then they take meds, and then get better... which I don't mean to trivialize, that sounds difficult. But I feel like there's other people who are just *permanently* depressed, and that's just the way they are. And if there isn't any hoping things will change, what's the point? In case it matters, I've been seeing both a therapist and a psychiatrist for awhile now. I've been on several different antidepressants and anxiety meds, and I've done group therapies. I don't have any great hardship in my life, no abuse... nothing really. I feel like this helps me clearly see the way the world is, and I feel like there's no point for 'fighting' anymore. Anyways, I guess my question is... do people agree with me? Or are there really people who recover from this, after being depressed for so many years? Do you guys think there is a point to trying to recover?