do you agree?

Discussion in 'I Have a Question...' started by painful, Jan 22, 2011.

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  1. painful

    painful Well-Known Member

    we werent asked if we wanted to be born into this world. the world should at least let us decide if we want to stay. legalize human euthinazia.
  2. Winslow

    Winslow Antiquitie's Friend SF Supporter

    In some places such as Oregon and the Netherlands, human-euthanasia is already legalized. But it is allowed for Only those who suffer agonizing pain from cancer. Do you have cancer? And if not, then for what reason do you want euthanasia?
  3. painful

    painful Well-Known Member

    i believe its everyones right to decide if they want to live or die.
  4. bhawk

    bhawk Well-Known Member

    In denmark there was a ruling that euthanasia by non-action of doctors was legal.
    As it is people have been allowed to be euthanaised for being "tired of life", not just for terminally ill people.
  5. Prinnctopher's Belt

    Prinnctopher's Belt Antiquities Friend SF Supporter

    It is your right to decide to live or die, and your responsibility to do so if you wish to exercise the latter of that right when you are willing and able; not someone else's. We're in the business of keeping people alive as their right. If they want to be killed and are willing and able to do it to themselves, they should be left to do their own dirty work and not put that responsibility onto someone else.
  6. Isabel

    Isabel Staff Alumni

    Yup. I am for medically assisted euthanasia on compassionate ground providing that the person has access to counseling to make a rational decision.
  7. Gemballs

    Gemballs Well-Known Member

    i think that if someone is in a lot of pain and have a temral illness and theres no way that they will get better and its there wish just to be put out of the pain then let them do it.
  8. Dave_N

    Dave_N Banned Member

    I disagree with this logic. Euthanasia will never be legalized, because it amounts to murder.
  9. bluegrey

    bluegrey Antiquities Friend

    Euthanasia is for the terminally ill, not for people who are feeling hopeless and suffering emotionally. Getting back to feeling hopeful and reversing the symptoms of mental illness is manageable. Please try to be patient and stay with treatment, okay?
  10. Mortal Moon

    Mortal Moon Well-Known Member

    The means to end one's life easily, peacefully, and reliably should be legal and freely available to everyone. If one wants or needs assistance in dying (e.g. from a friend or physician), and the other person wants to provide this assistance, this should be legal as well. There is no good reason to force people to remain alive, whether through legal repercussions or by artificially making suicide more difficult than it needs to be (both of which are currently the case).
  11. kobie76

    kobie76 Well-Known Member

    I definitely agree that someone who is in pain & terminally ill should be given the choice, after all its in-humane not to.
  12. Kaos General

    Kaos General Well-Known Member

    I agree with this completely. Im all for choice but to expect someone to kill you just because you are tired of life and dont like the way things are going? If people want to die then do it themselves
  13. bhawk

    bhawk Well-Known Member

    I personally dont agree that euthanasia should only be for the terminally ill. I would euthanaise an animal if it were not going to have a life worth living and i apply the same principles to people, if they feel they no longer enjoy the experience of life and wish to end it then as long as they've had some form of counselling beforehand to check for any mental illnesses which could cause it i think they should be allowed to die. It is how i wish to die, not at the point im in a wheelchair, i want out while im still relatively healthy and still got my wits about me (im a proud man and i loathe the thought of needing assistance to live. It would destroy me and i would die miserable)
  14. Mortal Moon

    Mortal Moon Well-Known Member

    What does "mental illness" have to do with it? Who are we to decide that a person is incompetent to make decisions about their own life?
  15. bhawk

    bhawk Well-Known Member

    Because mental illnesses are diseases of the brain and can effect a persons normally balanced view.
    It is not fair to kill someone either for euthanasia or capital punishment when their minds are not always capable of understanding the implications of their actions.
    We do have to remember when talking about mental illness is that mental illnesses arent a black and white situation, someone may be mentally ill yet have a full grasp of their actions, others however wont. This is why i think that counselling would be necessary beforehand so a specialist can confirm whether or not the person wishing to die does understand and is sound of mind while making the decision.

    Its also fair to add that when i have had "episodes2 in the past due to my condition i have insisted that i be killed, yet now i am on medicine and balanced now i no longer wish to die so urgently
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  16. Mortal Moon

    Mortal Moon Well-Known Member

    People do stupid things for stupid reasons all the time. That's their right, as long as they're not harming others. Just because we don't understand or agree with a person's death wish doesn't mean we can force them to stay alive, and this includes whether or not they meet our (ever-changing) definitions of competence and "mental health."

    Whose standard do we go by, anyhow? There are plenty of people (including many so-called "experts") who believe that suicidality is inherently a product of mental illness, and that therefore, by definition, no person's desire to die can ever be rational or legitimate.
  17. bhawk

    bhawk Well-Known Member

    So do you think that while i was manic/episodal i should have been allowed to die?
  18. Mortal Moon

    Mortal Moon Well-Known Member

    I see no reason why not. Are you not every bit as much of a human being during a manic-depressive episode as you are when you're drugged into "normalcy?" It's a general rule of human decency that we respect other people's life decisions, regardless of whether or not we agree with their rationale, or whether or not it's what we think is "best" for them.
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  19. bhawk

    bhawk Well-Known Member

    So you believe someone suffering a mental illness that means they dont know what they want and dont understand the implications of their actions should be killed if they say so.
    That to me is wrong, unless you have experienced it - the doing things without you being fully aware afterwards - you cant understand how different a single person can be, when im episodal i do not know what i want, im acting due to an imbalance of chemicals in the brain and i should not be killed due to that imbalance.
  20. doityourself

    doityourself Well-Known Member

    The only way I would want this to happen is if there was a law that required you to undergo counseling , to inform family, and have a waiting period of say a year to rethink things in life. Im sure there would be more to it than this.

    If after that you still want it then its your life, who am I to tell you how to live it.
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