But I'm pissed off and I cant sit here and be Mrs. Goody about it anymore!!! I'm too old to sit around let little children throw their hissy fits and do nothing anymore. I'm too far gone to give a shit about what anyone out there will think about me for posting this. So if I piss you off.... too bad!!! I'm letting it out BOYS and GIRLS!! Find a comfy chair cuz it's gonna be a long read!!! This stems from a thread in the suicide forum. It has been closed by admin. I regret that I am bringing it up because it has been closed for good reasons. But it really pisses me off the mentality of some people. "Suicide Forum - A support forum for people in crisis". I think it says it pretty clearly in the title of the site. This is a support forum for people that are suffering from suicidal thoughts and urges. If that doesnt spell it out clearly enough then read the tutorials and the rules and guidelines. "This is a pro-life forum" bastardizes that contained information. The very rules and guidelines that you are suppose to read before you join. So if you havent, go and read them now!!!!! Every single member here is here about the support. Either in giving or taking it. There's that word again....... SUPPORT!!!!! For those that are suicidal, it is crucial. It could mean the difference of life or death. Some here are stuck with the thoughts and urges. No amount of words or support are going to change their minds. But being here gives those people a place to belong. To not have to face the loneliness of their battle. Some come here and find the support and are able to move on. Others come here only to offer whatever support they can. But everyone here is here of their own free will. "No, it's a prosuffer/ignore realities of life site." The reality of this site is that members are suffering. That their battles daily with suicidal thoughts and urges or mental health issues is their reality!!! Not one single person here is going to dispute that. What realities are you talking about? The reality is that people can come here, feel like they have found a place to voice their pain. Talk about their suicidal thoughts and urges. In the real world, you cant utter those words without someone looking down on you or trying to make you think or feel differently. "they act as if they have any inkling as to how the person is feeling or what is going on in their life" Almost every member here can truly relate on some level to the pain other members are suffering through. No one can completely understand another persons problems or pain. But most can certainly relate to it. Understand it for the battle it is. A persons pain is as individual as the member. But all pain holds a common factor. The mental and emotionally Hell it puts people through. So people here arent pretending to understand. They DO understand. And I think it is so unselfish of those same people to be trying and help a fellow member when they themselves are suffering so badly. Any suggestions that are offered are done so guenuinely. In hopes that something that may of worked for one may help another. No one here is trying to undermine anyone elses problems or pain. So to all of those members that disagree with this site mission, leave. It's that simple. No one forced you to sign up and no one is forcing you to stay at a site that obviously isnt what you're looking for. But dont have the nerve to sit there and put all the hard efforts of the staff and the members that care about each other to waste. Put it down because it isnt what you believe. You want a pro-suicide site, then by all means go find one. This is not it!!! If you're still here then there is something about this site you feel you need. It serves some purpose for you while you're struggling. Then stay but dont keep putting the site and members down. There are many members here that are pro-suicide. In actuality ever member that comes here feeling suicidal is pro-suicide atleast at that point in their life. There are members here that dont completely agree with the site mission but have the class and good taste not to voice their opinions in the Suicide Forum but rather in other places where it will be more efficient (ie Letters to Management, Soap Box etc.). And there are members that feel everyone should have the right to end their own life when they deem it appropriate. But they have the tack to voice their own opinion as just that and dont use it to enourage others. So you see, there are all kinds of beliefs and thoughts by all the members here. But this isnt a sounding board for pro-life or pro-suicide. This is a support site. You want to debate the good vs bad of suicidal thoughts, or how others view it, then start a damn thread in Soap Box. But DONT try and convince those that need this site that it isnt what it was started as... a place for those that are suicidal and trying to find that one last chance for support and help. If you're looking for someone to say "hey way to go, you're suicidal. Wow I encourage you 100%. Please let me help you by giving you a few good methods I've tried or heard about," then oops!! you're in the wrong place!!! In my personal opinion (and incase I need to clarify that - my own thoughts and having nothing to do with those of other members, staff or the SF site itself), those that stay and continually put this site down are nothing more than attention seekers or trolls!!! Yeah that's right. Cuz if those people were truly suicidal they would understand the need for a pro-life site such as this. And they would be using it for the support and understanding it offers. Not throwing shit like the stated thread out there for everyone to read. God some people really piss me off. The same people that would be bitching at a pro-suicide site that everyone there is just trying to kill them off!!!!!!!!!