please read my response with a calm tone in mind, i realise i have been in a poor mood recently, but none of what i say is is intended to be shouting, or putting my foot down on the matter in any way
as has been said before, we cannot stop anyone from killing themself if that is their absolute intent. this is a forum on the internet which means we cant actually, physically, be there for people to get them the help and support they would need. but we do our best to talk people out of harming themself and to get help
you are allowed express your deepest feelings here, if you feel like total shit say so, what you cant do is say things that would hurt others here, we dont allow you to say "i feel shit so im going to take XYZ" because it could give others ideas, if someone said they were going to use cough medicine in a dangerous way (which isnt impossible - over the counter doesnt make it 100% safe) we wouldnt want people to encourage it, and we also dont allow people to flame others (eg "you're such an asshole for blah blah blah") because that too is hurtful. i can guarantee if i called anyone that they would be up in arms about it, and rightly so.
when Robin, or anyone, offers you PM it is offering you their time, and a place to talk where things are calmer than the main board where too many opinions from all directions can make things confused, you yourself have offered the space of you PM inbox to the OP if this thread.
you have the right to believe "god" gave you these rights, i too believe everyone should have them, but while you do support the forum by supporting the members, which i appreciate greatly, you don't actually pay for the site, you don't spend hours trying to make things go as smoothly as possible. if you walked into a government building and started to paint the walls Magenta with the reason "i support this government, i pay my taxes, this wall is here for me" do you think they'd just say "ok" and leave you to it? (yes i realise i just compared the way we run things to the government, we're not that bad :tongue
actually im not entirely sure what you want put to vote. do you want to be able to share methods? because that is actually a crime, not to mention goes against the entire ethic of the forum. or do you want to be allowed call people assholes when you want? cos that just seems nonsensical to me (personally, not just as staff). or maybe it's something else that ive missed?
i took a look at the front of the forum the other day and realised there would be, by my count, 11 fewer sub forums if it were truely the fact that we never listened to members
Domestic Abuse, Relationships and Sexual Orientation, General Disorders, Medication and Treatment, Antiquitie's Friends, Buddy Chat, Soap box, Positive Feelings and Moticational Messages and Midnight Owl were all (i believe) suggested by members, we probably wouldnt need Forum news & updates because if we didnt care what members thought then we wouldnt care what you thought when we made changes.
And the letters forum, well if you dont know it ill give you the history of that forums birth. before we had it there were complaints, of course there were, but all that ever happened was it would turn into an Us Vs. Them shouting match, people would get upset and nothing would ever get solved. So we made letters, not so we could hide dissagreement from others eyes - for how dare you disagree with us, but so if someone did have a problem it could be discussed calmly, we do discuss things when someone makes a complaint, and things have changed on the forum because of posts there.
We could have just gotten tired of all the fighting and said "that's it, we dont have to take this, no more complaining. If you have a problem from now on just shut up and deal with it, if you post we will just delete it," but we didnt, we came up with a solution which has, for the most part, helped. yes it can take a while to get a reply there, but we are busy people, i know it you look at letters it looks like no one else has posted but there are 24 pages now, so if you think it's been a while please post again to bump up the thread, or PM a staff member and ask whats happening
letters was made so you can have your say, and in having it something can be done, and if nothing is done, it's more than likely we'll do our best to explain why
edit: Boston, just to let you know i removed a couple of your posts in this thread cos they were doubles of what you said right before (sometimes happens if you click "post reply" twice by accident :wink
If indeed these rules is working with all the postive ,
rule obeying "caring" obviously words did not helped Agness
from killing herself. Isn't that tells us something?
rule obeying "caring" obviously words did not helped Agness
from killing herself. Isn't that tells us something?
As I see it it could /might be /maybe,
the opposite of the rules is more effective.
Let us give that thought an ample consideration ,
as it is very
obvoius that these rules makes people as the same
drove people to the edge by limiting
their deepest feelings from coming out .
You never know that
the deepest expression without repercurssion
is liberating & this is probably what Agnes wants.
Who knows.
the opposite of the rules is more effective.
Let us give that thought an ample consideration ,
as it is very
obvoius that these rules makes people as the same
drove people to the edge by limiting
their deepest feelings from coming out .
You never know that
the deepest expression without repercurssion
is liberating & this is probably what Agnes wants.
Who knows.
If the pm will suffice, an attitude
is egocentric. I took it as
" I can handle this one" .
I don't need
the feedback from others.
is egocentric. I took it as
" I can handle this one" .
I don't need
the feedback from others.
This site is supported by us ,for us, & should have
the rights to claim our God given rights.
I am not crazy about God,you know that,
but that is thhe core of free speech in anywhere
you go.
the rights to claim our God given rights.
I am not crazy about God,you know that,
but that is thhe core of free speech in anywhere
you go.
What I really want to see here is to put
this issue to rest, & put them in a ballot box,
but as I said, this can be a reflection about the site &
the admin would not take a chance that a referendum
will prove the futility of the rules & policies of this site.
this issue to rest, & put them in a ballot box,
but as I said, this can be a reflection about the site &
the admin would not take a chance that a referendum
will prove the futility of the rules & policies of this site.
i took a look at the front of the forum the other day and realised there would be, by my count, 11 fewer sub forums if it were truely the fact that we never listened to members
Domestic Abuse, Relationships and Sexual Orientation, General Disorders, Medication and Treatment, Antiquitie's Friends, Buddy Chat, Soap box, Positive Feelings and Moticational Messages and Midnight Owl were all (i believe) suggested by members, we probably wouldnt need Forum news & updates because if we didnt care what members thought then we wouldnt care what you thought when we made changes.
And the letters forum, well if you dont know it ill give you the history of that forums birth. before we had it there were complaints, of course there were, but all that ever happened was it would turn into an Us Vs. Them shouting match, people would get upset and nothing would ever get solved. So we made letters, not so we could hide dissagreement from others eyes - for how dare you disagree with us, but so if someone did have a problem it could be discussed calmly, we do discuss things when someone makes a complaint, and things have changed on the forum because of posts there.
We could have just gotten tired of all the fighting and said "that's it, we dont have to take this, no more complaining. If you have a problem from now on just shut up and deal with it, if you post we will just delete it," but we didnt, we came up with a solution which has, for the most part, helped. yes it can take a while to get a reply there, but we are busy people, i know it you look at letters it looks like no one else has posted but there are 24 pages now, so if you think it's been a while please post again to bump up the thread, or PM a staff member and ask whats happening
letters was made so you can have your say, and in having it something can be done, and if nothing is done, it's more than likely we'll do our best to explain why
edit: Boston, just to let you know i removed a couple of your posts in this thread cos they were doubles of what you said right before (sometimes happens if you click "post reply" twice by accident :wink
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