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Ideas & Opinions (genuine) question about suicide

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auburnfrog

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Nearly all resources that are written and designed to persuade someone out of suicide always mentions something along the lines of 'think of the people who love you and how your death is going to affect them'. But how is suicide any different from death due to natural causes and accidents? I know that suicide lacks the inevitability of sickness and accidents, but ultimately it's death.

I also feel that, the longer I live, the more pain and burden I'm going to inflict on the people around me, so if I kill myself, that would just be...maybe great pain for them, but it's the last one from me - and shouldn't this be better?

[These are serious questions and my true feelings. I'm not trolling, and I do not intend to offend anyone - and if I do, I'm very sorry. Please don't respond with sarcasm, satire or a passive-aggressive tone. Thank you :)]
 

Champagne

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Hello there...

I guess its because those that do love and care about you will feel some sort of blame and enormous guilt on themselves for not noticing the ''signs'', not helping sooner, not being there for you probably when you needed them the most. Its different than accidents because you did it purposefully with full intent (won't go any further there due to the sites guidelines) and they will believe they did not do enough, its tougher, I have seen how local suicides in my area are and all I can say is please get help for yourself before you let yourself go too far and destroy your life and save your loved ones from difficult times ahead, beyond difficult ( no guilt intended there), just a glimpse of reality.

No judgment from me what-so-ever :)
 

GMody

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When health issues and pain... physical or emotional becomes unbearable then one thinks of suicide. I know it will inflict pain on the near and dear. I am at a point where I am contemplating suicide. I have the methods.
 

Lekatt

Love Cats Love All
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Nearly all resources that are written and designed to persuade someone out of suicide always mentions something along the lines of 'think of the people who love you and how your death is going to affect them'. But how is suicide any different from death due to natural causes and accidents? I know that suicide lacks the inevitability of sickness and accidents, but ultimately it's death.

I also feel that, the longer I live, the more pain and burden I'm going to inflict on the people around me, so if I kill myself, that would just be...maybe great pain for them, but it's the last one from me - and shouldn't this be better?

[These are serious questions and my true feelings. I'm not trolling, and I do not intend to offend anyone - and if I do, I'm very sorry. Please don't respond with sarcasm, satire or a passive-aggressive tone. Thank you :)]
I think this is a fair question that deserves a serious answer.

I don't know why you believe you cause pain and are a burden to others. I will proceed without that knowledge. Suicide makes your loved ones feel guilty, like they could have done or said something to prevent it. They become depressed and feel helpless in the wake of a suicide. Actually they are harmed more, a lot more, than a death from sickness or accident. It can be very bad if they think they said something to provoke you.

A young girl emailed me to say her boyfriend killed himself after they had a lover's quarrel. She was so devastated that she couldn't eat, sleep or even go to work. It took months of counseling to even get her back to work.

The damage can be overwhelming to your loved ones. A second point is suicide does not solve your problems, you take them with you into the afterlife of the Spirit World. If you don't believe in an afterlife, the evidence can be proven.

I so hope you will not consider suicide as an option. There are other ways to solve personal problems. Keep posting here and you will discover them. I will be happy to answer any and all direct questions you may have. I care about you.
 

GMody

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Suicide is the last option when all hope is lost. We all know the loved ones will be devastated. Most persons committing are aware of that, but that won't prevent them from taking the final plunge so to speak. The pain is so overwhelming that it overrides all other decisions. The question is not IF but WHEN one commits suicide.
 

Lekatt

Love Cats Love All
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Suicide is the last option when all hope is lost. We all know the loved ones will be devastated. Most persons committing are aware of that, but that won't prevent them from taking the final plunge so to speak. The pain is so overwhelming that it overrides all other decisions. The question is not IF but WHEN one commits suicide.
Suicide should never be an option. There are drugs to control physical pain. There are methods to ameliorate emotional pain. A person can change their thoughts about life in general with little effort. Many people have gone from negative outlooks to positive ones in their lifetime. There are Books, Videos, Audios, and other media that can help. There are other people that can help. I know I was a negative person once.
 

Sunspots

To Wish Impossible Things
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Because you have chosen to leave them. You didn't love them enough to stay. They will never get over it and always wonder if it was their fault - could they have done more.

Many of us here know that feeling you're going through only too well and it's truly awful. I was there myself three years ago. I was 100% sure that it would be the best thing for my family, it would free them from the burden that is me and that eventually they would be happy I was no longer in unbearable emotional pain. But after two attempts and seeing the devastation it caused my children, after a lot of therapy and the unending support of the people here I am glad I'm still here - and so are my kids.

My best friend killed herself when we were teenagers. I've never really forgiven myself for not seeing the signs and helping her. I can't get over the fact that she felt so alone and helpless. Even now, when I understand how that feels it doesn't alleviate the guilt I feel. I can't even begin to imagine how it's affected her parents.
 

Wispiwill

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The main reason I'm still here is because I know, without a doubt, that my daughter would never forgive herself for me killing myself. Even though it absolutely would NOT be her fault - she'd still blame herself. She'd wonder what she did wrong (nothing). What more she could have done to help me (nothing). What she missed (again, nothing). And why I didn't love her enough to stay. In the end - she'd feel it was HER shortcoming - not mine. And as bad as I feel, even on my dark days, I have serious trouble deliberately causing her that pain (although it's sometimes more of a close thing than I like to admit to myself).

I hope that helps.
 
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I think it's cause its intentional, whereas illness and accidents arent. It's hard enough grieving death under any circumstance nevermind knowing the cause was intentional, I imagine it must be very hard for people to get their heads around. Also cause it must be so heartbreaking knowing someone you love felt so bad they resorted to something so drastic and final.
 

GMody

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Lost_in_fairytale. What you said is true but sometimes the pain becomes so unbearable, suicide seems the only option . I am suicidal bcuz of health probs.
 
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Lost_in_fairytale. What you said is true but sometimes the pain becomes so unbearable, suicide seems the only option . I am suicidal bcuz of health probs.
Yeah I totally understand, I've been suicidal multiple times in my life, even planned it for months once. But ive also known people close to me be suicidal too, so I can understand it from both perspectives. I've been feeling suicidal on and off the past couple months. I'm sorry you feel that way too *sadhug
 
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