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God Hates Little Children

Discussion in 'Opinions, Beliefs, & Points of View' started by pit, May 20, 2009.

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  1. pit

    pit Well-Known Member

    Thousands beaten, raped in Irish reform schools

    AP Wire

    Kevin Flannigan from the group 'Survivors of Child Abuse', protests at not being AP – Kevin Flannigan from the group 'Survivors of Child Abuse', protests at not being allowed into the launch …
    By SHAWN POGATCHNIK, Associated Press Writer Shawn Pogatchnik, Associated Press Writer – 15 mins ago

    DUBLIN – A fiercely debated, long-delayed investigation into Ireland's Roman Catholic-run institutions says priests and nuns terrorized thousands of boys and girls in workhouse-style schools for decades — and government inspectors failed to stop the chronic beatings, rapes and humiliation.

    Nine years in the making, Wednesday's 2,600-page report sides almost completely with the horrific reports of abuse from former students sent to more than 250 church-run, mostly residential institutions. But victims' leaders said it didn't go far enough — particularly because none of their abusers were identified by name.

    The report concluded that church officials always shielded their orders' pedophiles from arrest to protect their own reputations and, according to documents uncovered in the Vatican, knew that many pedophiles were serial attackers.

    The investigators said overwhelming, consistent testimony from still-traumatized men and women, now in their 50s to 80s, had demonstrated beyond a doubt that the entire system treated children more like prison inmates and slaves than people with legal rights and human potential.

    "A climate of fear, created by pervasive, excessive and arbitrary punishment, permeated most of the institutions and all those run for boys. Children lived with the daily terror of not knowing where the next beating was coming from," the final report of Ireland's Commission to Inquire Into Child Abuse concluded.

    The leader of Ireland's 4 million Catholics, Cardinal Sean Brady, and religious orders at the center of the scandal offered immediate apologies.

    "I am profoundly sorry and deeply ashamed that children suffered in such awful ways in these institutions. Children deserved better and especially from those caring for them in the name of Jesus Christ," Brady said.

    The Sisters of Mercy, which ran several refuges for girls where the report documented chronic brutality, said in a statement its nuns "accept that many who spent their childhoods in our orphanages or industrial schools were hurt and damaged while in our care."

    "There is a great sadness in all of our hearts at this time and our deepest desire is to continue the healing process for all involved," the Sisters of Mercy said.

    And the Rev. Edmund Garvey, spokesman for the Christian Brothers order that once ran dozens of boys' schools, said that reading the report's "presentation of the history of our institutions, it is hard to avoid feeling shame."

    More than 30,000 children deemed to be petty thieves, truants or from dysfunctional families — a category that often included unmarried mothers — were sent to Ireland's austere network of industrial schools, reformatories, orphanages and hostels from the 1930s until the last church-run facilities shut in the 1990s.
  2. Jack Rabbit

    Jack Rabbit Well-Known Member

    Don't blame God. Each man is responsible for his own sins. Religion is not even required for this discussion. Evil men do evil things. So it's up to good men to do good things.
  3. hammockmonkey

    hammockmonkey Well-Known Member

    I believe I saw something on theonion.com that said god was addicted to babies.
  4. pit

    pit Well-Known Member

    When I say God, I mean Man's Religious Establishment. Also, I love the title for this thread. It pulls in readers!
  5. The_8th_Wonder

    The_8th_Wonder senior Member

    Everybody hates children. Why do you think that children used to get beaten (and some still do) at school for "misbehaving." Adults treat children like they never were children... what the hell.
  6. Entoloma43

    Entoloma43 Well-Known Member

    The Christian God certainly doesn't like children.

    He drowns babies, and orders the butchering of children in the old testament.
  7. pit

    pit Well-Known Member

    S'right. He also disemboweled persons who ate meat on Mondays, burned people who went bowling Wednesday nights, and strangled lovers who showed affection in public. A mean spirited asshole, this God.
  8. Mikeintx

    Mikeintx Well-Known Member

    God doesnt hate children the irish do gawd
  9. Maaso

    Maaso Well-Known Member

    As someone who spent most of their childhood in Ireland...I would have to say thats all bullshit.
  10. Zurkhardo

    Zurkhardo Well-Known Member

    Well at least several hundred victims have been identified, all of them from around the country and from different institutions. Granted, not every child in Ireland was affected but several hundred is cause enough for concern.
  11. What exactly are you refering too?
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