how long do u fight the urge to die? how many calls to support lines do you make before you accept that you are meant to committ sucide? < Mod Edit Hazel: Methods > I dont' know if that's true or not, but that's what I've been thinking and what I'm going to do. for too long now i've been fighting. sitting at the lake today speaking to samaritans and them saying oh that's dreadful, that's terrible, oh poor your pet (wtf) and then to be given napac's number to call....yeah great cause I've not tried them, or support line, or even victim support. They may listen but they don't actually help. I admit i'm a needy person i need to be loved, to feel wanted, to feel needed, to be held, yeah weak me oh how I know that already. hopefully hell will be better then this hell.