Gynecology (as well as that which compares for males) and "high physicals"

Discussion in 'Opinions, Beliefs, & Points of View' started by Lyse, Mar 5, 2009.

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  1. Lyse

    Lyse Guest

    Who else agrees that gynecological examinations, and that which compares for males, rids you of your virginity? I find it beyond sickening that this isn't even considered when girls are asked or encouraged to have one. In the US, also, all males will have their crotch grabbed and felt up during "high physicals" if they want to get into high school (or maybe their parents force them to). Basically all males in the US have lost their virginity in this way. And then you get to the girls with totally unnecessary gynecology. It's beyond sickening. God I fucking hate this world.
  2. Lyse

    Lyse Guest

    Before anyone brings it up, if I ever find my true love I will study gynecology, myself, so I could do the examination on her, instead, if it ever would be necessary.

    Ugh this subject pisses me off so fucking much.
  3. jameslyons

    jameslyons Well-Known Member

    I don't know when most women first go the gynecologist but I'm pretty certain they don't break the hymen. Anyhow I'll stick with my own gender.

    Testicular cancer is a big problem and a quick physical examination helps your doctor ensure that you have both testes descended and that each one hasn't any odd growth on them. The equivalent test for men, though is really the prostate exam - bend over and the guy sticks his finger up your butt to feel if your prostate has any unusual lumps or is above average in size. It's not pleasant :unsure:. Of course, most men don't get that until they're 40.

    Sex is very different from an examination.

    Lyse, your true love's vagina is hers and she'll probably want a doctor to make sure everything is ok. You'll need to learn to give your partners space or you'll just creep them out. It's their vagina, not yours. Even when in a committed relationship you haven't control over their body.
  4. Aeterna

    Aeterna Account Closed

    I don't, because virginity implies sex.

    Besides, even if it was robbing of them of their virginity, do you really expect men and women to risk their health and lives, because you think it robs them of their "virginity"?
  5. aoeu

    aoeu Well-Known Member

    Cervical cancer is not a health risk!

    This does not exist.

    Okay, it sounds like you're assuming she's a virgin, and that you'll be with her forever. Both likely incorrect premises.

    Further, it DISGUSTS me that you'd be willing to put her health and any of your potential childrens' health at risk for some bizarre crusade against NON-SEXUAL genital contact. Unless you go through medical school and take up practice as a gynecologist, you are NOT an acceptable substitute for one, and I HOPE you respect your "true love" enough to not put her at a potentially-lethal health risk.

    Shit. By your definition, we all lost our virginity TO OUR MOTHERS while being bathed as an infant.
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  6. Summer.Rain

    Summer.Rain Well-Known Member

    You dont loose your virginity if someone touches your privates :dry:
    To loose virginity you have to have sex, normal sex (no oral or whatever)
    the taboo of virginity goes about the expiriance of normal sex
    if you expirianced it, you are not a virgin, as simple as this.
  7. xan

    xan Chat Buddy

    The male version would be the prostate exam wouldn't it? :unsure: Really don't want that...
  8. wheresmysheep

    wheresmysheep Staff Alumni

    technically men dont have a physical virginity like women. so its the act that looses you your virginity.
    otherwise the first time you "play" with your self, your loosing your virginity.

    now women: unless there is something majorly wrong with a woman, you should have to get a smear/see a gyno untill your sexually active/pregnant respectively. and as for it taking a womans virginity otherwise, you must be upset at female gymnists and horse riders and other strenuos sports/activities that women partake in, as that can, through time, brake the hymen and deem them "technically" not a virgin.

    if its the idea of something entering that makes you feel like its taking the womans virginity then hope that you dont get a woman that has "played" with herself. which i think in this day and age is very hard.

    and as to training to be a gyno, it takes years of medical, then specialist training to do it, and you also need a lab to study the results.
  9. soliloquise

    soliloquise Well-Known Member

    sorry but i think you have big issues here about virginity ( and from other posts ) and these are not healthy really. the above is very misguided and to be honest v dangerous. echoing what other have said
  10. Petal

    Petal SF dreamer Staff Member Safety & Support SF Supporter

    You are totally confused. Do you even know the meaning of virginity?:rolleyes: The fact that you'd want to do the exam on her yourself, is disturbing to say the least:dry:
  11. wunderwood

    wunderwood Well-Known Member

    A gyne exam isn't losing your virginity. Just like wearing a tampon doesn't "take it away" either.

    I don't understand your take on sex/virginity.

    Were you or someone close to you hurt as a kid?
  12. Lyse

    Lyse Guest

    Why the fuck does everyone always assume that you lose your virginity when the hymen is broken? What, you can lose your virginity to a bicycle saddle? What does that have to do with anything? And NO, if a person masturbates it does NOT rid you of your virginity. It takes another person for one to be able to lose one's virginity.

    Why does this also make some assume I'm some sex hater? aoeu, anyway. I am totally obsessed with sex. It would be hard to find anyone more obsessed with it than I am.

    A mother bathing her baby is hardly the same thing. As for if we'd get children if I found my true love. Children have no place in a relationship under true love. We would never get children.

    High physicals do exist, aoeu. Maybe they are not at all as common as I thought, but they most definitely do exist. It probably only happens as a means to break down their character, in an assumption to have an easier time to control them.

    For the one who criticized me about this, yes; if I have to study gynecology I will make sure I will understand it properly.
  13. Spearmint

    Spearmint Well-Known Member

    You would go to medical school just so you could perform a gynecological examination on your future girlfriend/whatever?
  14. the fleet asleep

    the fleet asleep Well-Known Member

    whether or not youre a virgin is based entirely on whether or not youve had intercourse. you cannot lose your virginity to anything but a living human being, as "virginity" is just a term used to describe having never had sex. a physical, or a gyne exam, is not intercourse. therefore, by definition, you cannot lose your virginity in such a manner. if this were the case, you would lose your virginity the first time you bring yourself to orgasm, yourself. we both know thats not the case.

    also, performing a gynecological exam is something that should be left to physicians. an ob/gyn is not just some random man/woman looking at your private parts, theyre college trained physicians making sure youre healthy. denying a potential partner the right to see an ob/gyn, and instead performning these exams yourself would put her at great risk. im not even going to get into how insane it is to even think its a good idea, it should really be common sense.

    honestly, i dont know how these ideas found their way to you, but you should see a therapist about it. it really sounds like theres some underlying reason why you would think these things, and having a mental health proffesional explain why theyre wrong may do you some good
  15. aoeu

    aoeu Well-Known Member

    My new question is: how are you going to get the clinical experience of a gynecologist without violating strange women?

    You've only responded to me, and I find you disgusting.
  16. Lyse

    Lyse Guest

    I don't know if I'd go to a medical school but I'd definitely get one of those advanced programs that you use to examine the human body, without interaction with another human. Naturally, I could never examine anyone but my possible future true love, in order to learn; that would make me lose my virginity. But that's not even necessary, nowadays.

    Virginity just means sexual purity. I may make any definition of what that purity means. Of course, so may anyone else, but if they'd disagree with me they'd be wrong. :smile:

    Haha, yeah, I need therapy to fix my insanity. :laugh: You know, when people who disagree with me say that my views mean there is something wrong with me, it just makes me even more happy with myself.
  17. jameslyons

    jameslyons Well-Known Member

    I'm sorry but this thread is making me laugh! It's so silly, sorry Lyse.

  18. Lyse

    Lyse Guest

    Go ahead and laugh..... it means nothing to me, except further strengthen my lack of faith in humanity.
  19. Petal

    Petal SF dreamer Staff Member Safety & Support SF Supporter

    wow..this is sickening and revolting....kind of funny too..seriously dude, you need to look up the definition of virginity.
  20. Lyse

    Lyse Guest

    You mean like the definition that Merriam-Webster has? According to their definition, only females can be virgins or non-virgins. Males aren't even considered.

    People may find me as sickening and revolting as they want. I don't care if I so make them puke.
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