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  1. Asylum Project

    Asylum Project Well-Known Member

    I am religiously confused, what makes the people of you that are religious, religious, and what makes those of you who are not, not religious? I want to believe there is a God and a heaven out there but I can't grasp the concept where as others can.
     
  2. wheresmysheep

    wheresmysheep Staff Alumni

    i personally dont believe, in religion. Simply because it doesnt help me, the thought of a 'god' jut doesnt impress me or anything. it kinda makes me feel like i have a constant parent that you must obey or get scolded, and for me personally (when i'm not suicidal) that is not what life is about. yes treat others with respect and how you would like to be treated, but to me thats not what a religion should teach, thats just basic decency. as for heaven hell etc. no one knows whats after life. biologically speaking, theres nothing. spiritually speaking, whos to say we have a spirit? other than belief there is no proof of a spirit. thats (for me) just a comfort for people who maybe afraid of death, which is understandable, but no matter how you go, everyone will die. wether or not theres a heaven, hell, god or devil.

    just my opinion.
     
  3. HappyAZaClaM

    HappyAZaClaM Guest

    you mean yer parents didn't beat God into ya when you was growin up?

    only joking... :rolleyes:

    start with what you know. and add to that, what do you want?

    and be careful of people who SAY they know God and are religious, etc..

    sorry about the crude joke about your parents. I was just funnin. I grew
    up in agnostic family. well, mostly agnostic, except my Dad. he spouted
    atheism so religiously it sounded like religion. everyone else, agnostic.
    Mom, sister, both my brothers darryl.

    I like a church called Unity. I believe it started in Missouri. in the 1800's.

    http://www.unity.org/

    maybe there is one close to you. who knows? I don't know where ya are. anyway,
    good luck. hope you find what you are looking for
     
  4. music_junkie

    music_junkie Well-Known Member

    Hi Sunday. The best advice I can give you is just to start "trying on" religions. Explore! This is an exciting time for you, one where you can find a religion that really and truly "speaks" to you.

    When you think of God, what does that mean to you? How do you feel? What do you see?

    Does the universal love of Unitarian Universalists speak to you? The mysticism of Paganism? The discipline and detachment of Buddhism? The tangible figure-head of Jesus? The humility of the Latter Day Saints?

    Get out there, go to services, speak to religious leaders... And have fun! This isn't necessarily a "bad" thing, nor does it have to be a bad experience.
     
  5. JohnADreams

    JohnADreams Well-Known Member

    There isn't any good reason to believe, so I don't. Nothing more complicated than that.
     
  6. Ziggy

    Ziggy Antiquitie's Friend

    I find it interesting to look at the reasons I believed in God. I mean I could believe that there are ducks on the moon, but whether there are or not makes no difference to my life, so is the belief that important to me or are other factors?

    Did I want to feel accepted and loved by God or by other Christians? Did I want to find a purpose or meaning in my life? Maybe I felt that there was something greater than me that I should respect and worship? And I think you can find these things in other ways. You can find your own purpose and meaning. Work out where you stand in relation to other people and the rest of nature. It's about finding your own answers, forming your own world view.

    That's why confusion is a good thing, it's a part of dicovering yourself. I think it's a real shame that people can so readily accept and adopt a worldview that's simply given to them... "believe this, don't question it". Maybe then you won't be confused, but what's the point? I don't want to cling to my beliefs, I want to experience life and have my beliefs challenged. Far more interesting.
     
  7. HappyAZaClaM

    HappyAZaClaM Guest

    here is a google search of one of the most interesting speakers I have
    ever heard. he was a Unity Minister, but didn't ever sound at all like a
    minister. pretty cool guy I think..........

    http://www.google.com/search?source...=SUNA,SUNA:2008-40,SUNA:en&q=eric+butterworth
     
  8. Rockster

    Rockster Guest

    i have been struggling to ind faith myself, so much of me wants to believe but after everything that has gone on i cant.. All i can say is faith comes from the heart and resolve of an individual, so what you need to do is look deep inside yourself and work out what you see, do you see faith in there? Do you see an inner strength that comes from believing in god?
     
  9. Alexpt2

    Alexpt2 Well-Known Member

    Honestly, you can ask a million religious people why they believe what they do and you're never going to get a valid answer. Its kinda like asking a little kid why he believes in Santa Claus. The truth is, in spite of what they may tell you, religious people have no greater understanding of anything than you do. The only thing they have, that you or I don't have is faith. And what is faith really? Besides just blindly believing in something that is totally irrational, illogical and unfounded, without question just because it makes them feel all warm and fuzzy inside. And why dont they question their beliefs? cause they dont want to, thats why. They would rather stay ignorant and happy. Comfortable and secure in their little fairytale worlds where everything will be okay in the end. Where all this pain and suffering that is life will one day be worth it in the end, when they will die and go to this magical place called heaven where they will experience eternal happyness. Well screw that I say! It's all a crock of shit as far as i'm concerned.

    question everything, beLIEve in nothing.
     
  10. HappyAZaClaM

    HappyAZaClaM Guest

    actually, that's a really good answer. along with questioning everything
    and blindly believing in nothing, in some "religious" organizations there is
    a dgree of social networking that can be helpful, or maybe even
    enjoyable. not many that I have experienced are worth the paper
    they are printed on. less, in fact. but some are not too bad. but no,
    there are no magical "I've seen the light" sort of answers.

    church, religion etc...is a bit like AA. if it helps fine. if it don't, oh well.
     
  11. HappyAZaClaM

    HappyAZaClaM Guest

    I would still urge extreme caution around religious stuff that really
    wants to actively "convert" you and assimillate you into the collective,
    like unto the BORG. be watchful of this stuff.
     
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