Urm, so yeah, I am new here of course. I don't really know what to say about myself except that I hope to be able to discuss the main topic of this site without people freaking out. I cannot really talk about this with people I know because that is exactly what they will do, and most forums also have people go instantly to the "OMG CALL 911" mode if I post a question about suicide. I'm in my 30s and have struggled with suicidal thoughts since I was pretty young. I am in treatment for depression both with meds and talk therapy. Lately I have felt not so much depressed as just wanting to end it. So far I have been resisting the impulse, but it is wearing away at me, day after day. I need a place to ask about the more abstract philosophical aspects of suicide, particularly from an ethical point of view. In your basic mental health forum it's not kosher to have a frank discussion about this topic for fear of triggering. To date it has been the moral case against ending it that really keeps me back, but I feel kind of lost at the moment. So if it is okay, I hope I can stick around and get some input. sorry if this was too long. Let me know if it is and I will do a shorter version.