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how do i stop this cycle? plz help

twilight

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#1
I feel bad so I eat. I eat too much then I feel worse. I am so sick of hurting myself this way. At first I felt optimistic about losing weight, then I go and sabotage myself by eating too much! How do I stop this? I really am sick of this...
 

Terry

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Staff Alumni
#2
Have you tried having prepared vegetables and fruit in the fridge for when you want to binge?

I know they're not what u want to eat when the binge mechanism kicks in, but they can stop the hungry feeling, which is just that awful emptiness that food seems to fill for a bit.

I munch on rice cakes when I get like that and they have hardly any calories at all.
 

twilight

Well-Known Member
#3
Thanks for the idea. I am not really a fruit and vegetables person but I know I should eat more of them. I like the idea of rice cakes and I do know of some good ones. I've found something else though for anyone with the same problem I have. It is a little on the expensive side but if you buy fiber it will help keep you full. Or you could just eat fruit and vegtables because they have fiber but if you don't like them try the chewable fiber tablets. They taste alright and they will keep you full.
 
N

non_existence

#4
How do I stop this? I really am sick of this...
well you're trying to satisfy a subconscious desire of some kind (most likely loneliness) through eating. i went through that for like half a year, finally won the battle by getting lots of reiki treatments, meditation & sheer will-power.

a major factor for me was that by over-eating i was wasting my money which i desperately needed for other things, i kept trying to remind myself of that when i would go into an irrational state and act on the craving to buy junk food.
 

Terry

Antiquities Friend
Staff Alumni
#5
Doughnuts should be banned forever, can never eat just one its 6 or nothing :laugh: :laugh:
 
#6
Do you exercise much?

I'm not being facetious, I've personally found exercise to be good for fat loss (I know too many blokes who are trying to 'get big' to use the term 'weight loss') not just because it burns calories. One of the benefits is it reduces cravings for bad food.

Sometimes I might eat junk food because I'm bored. If, instead, I do some exercise (eg popping out for a quick run) that occupies me. After the run I'm thirsty and have a drink of water. I'm not that hungry then (sometimes you can just skip the run and reach straight for the water, it works surprisingly well)

Sometimes I might eat junk food because I'm miserable. The sense of contentment, mingled with the mild endorphin high of exercise makes me less miserable.

If I know I'll be doing some exercise the next day, I'm less likely to eat something like curry (a particular vice of mine) the night before, as I know from bitter experience how bad I'll feel training the next day. So I'm much more likely to instead have, say, wholewheat pasta. I know I'll be thankful for it when I need the energy.

Being more active can actually increase your metabolic rate, too. As calories are burnt off faster you have a little bit more 'leeway', so any lapses aren't punished so much. I read somewhere that after a decent weights session this effect can last for up to forty-eight hours. Can't vouch for the reasearch into that, but speaking anecdotally I can feel my body burning energy to repair muscle after I've been down the gym.

If you train a little and make a few diet changes, a lot of the rest will fall into place. I'm not great at eating fruit, which is why I have a blender. It's not ideal, but got to be better than never touching the stuff).

Start really slowly. Don't go out and cane it if you don't currently train, just make it, say, a once-a-week thing. The goal is to make a habit of it. Over time your comfort zone gradually expands to encompass twice a week, then three times, and greater levels of intensity each time you train.

Don't set yourself any goals regarding weight to lose, distances to run/swim/row/cycle/ski, weights to lift or reps to bang out, or anything like that. As long as you're regularly doing stuff, it's enough. Don't burn out, just get tired. Then you're done. The other stuff will take care of itself.

The good news is that any cravings you'll have for foods you're cutting out do diminish with time. The other good news is there are so many ways to be active there's a good chance you'll find one you enjoy. And as you get fitter you'll enjoy it more as you'll be better at it.

I'm not a fitness fanatic or anything, I'm just a fat bloke who currently isn't fat. Sorry to have waffled on, just some thoughts I thought I'd share.
 

twilight

Well-Known Member
#7
Your post was very helpful and I don't think you waffled on. :smile: I did exercise today, although I don't feel like it was enough. I did twenty minutes on this exercise bike type thing. Eating healthy can be hard. I exercised because I ate some possibly greasy Chinese food that I shouldn't have. Chinese food is hard to say no to sometimes :unsure: That motivated me to try to burn off some the calories though. I wish I knew how many I had but there is not really a way to find out. I think I have improved from the days of eating ice cream and cookies all day at least.
 
#8
I did exercise today, although I don't feel like it was enough.
Were you tired? If so, it was enough. And even if you weren't that tired, don't stress about how much you did. Just the fact that you did it is what counts. The trick is to make it a habit. Tiring yourself into the ground can be counter-productive in that sense.


Chinese food is hard to say no to sometimes
Then don't. Eat it, just not every day. Some people follow a diet (by which I mean a permanent, not temporary eating plan) that allows for a weekly 'cheat meal'. It's great for keeping motivation up, and also weakens the control the food has over you. This is because if you completely deny yourself something then thinking about it becomes dominant, and you're not really free. Moderation is key.

I wish I knew how many[calories] I had [burned off] but there is not really a way to find out.
It doesn't matter anyway. The body's complicated, and the way in which calorie burning translates into fat loss is non-linear - depending on so many factors such as time of day, when you last ate, what it was, how much of your body is lean mass plus probably a billion others, many of which unknown. So calorie counting is a waste of time. What matters is the broad strokes.

I think I have improved from the days of eating ice cream and cookies all day at least.
Good work :smile:
 

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