How much can we take?
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These questions don't have simple answers. What I've written down is far from a definitive answer. Rather, they're what I think. I'm assuming you want opinions. Here goes:
1. Because the opposite of hurt cannot exist without it. And it's not a bad thing, to hurt. It means you have a conscience. If you didn't hurt at all, you'd be cold and heartless.
2. Oh but you can... it's just that you don't always realise you've found it. Sometimes, the answer can take ages to find. Other times, there isn't an answer. It'd be bad for us if we knew EVERYTHING. And there'd be nothing left to discover, which would make things boring.
3. Life is confusing and painful. Yeah. I can't deny that. But life is also happy, and fun, and all of those wonderful adjectives that I would normally be able to think of, if I weren't so tired. Life isn't all negative, it's positive too. Its just that the positives are usually a little harder to find.
4. Others put us down because they're insecure, usually. Bullies generally have low self esteem, and are pretty screwed up inside. Sometimes they want attention, or it's the only way they know how to act because of how they grew up.
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1. Because the opposite of hurt cannot exist without it. And it's not a bad thing, to hurt. It means you have a conscience. If you didn't hurt at all, you'd be cold and heartless.
2. Oh but you can... it's just that you don't always realise you've found it. Sometimes, the answer can take ages to find. Other times, there isn't an answer. It'd be bad for us if we knew EVERYTHING. And there'd be nothing left to discover, which would make things boring.
3. Life is confusing and painful. Yeah. I can't deny that. But life is also happy, and fun, and all of those wonderful adjectives that I would normally be able to think of, if I weren't so tired. Life isn't all negative, it's positive too. Its just that the positives are usually a little harder to find.
4. Others put us down because they're insecure, usually. Bullies generally have low self esteem, and are pretty screwed up inside. Sometimes they want attention, or it's the only way they know how to act because of how they grew up.
TDM
We are hard wired with emotions that are built to accent our instincts. Purely survival.
The truthful answer, or what we want the answer to be? I've found our existence to be pretty darn pointless. The meaning of it is the same for a goldfish, or a zebra, or a bird. We survive to survive. We survive today, so that we or some form of our species can survive tomorrow. So we have instincts hard wired to help us do that but with a human (and maybe some other specific animals) we have a brain that is capable of higher levels of cognition. In combination with our (some would say barbaric) instinct, we have not only short term memory but long term memory as well, critical thinking etc.... I think its the truest definition of a conscious (or at least the truest we've ever seen). So as a result we have the conscious/higher cognitive ability to wonder why and how and thats just what we do. But i think on a sub-conscious level a simple "survive to survive" answer just isnt good enough so we create a "deeper" meaning through our work, love, passions etc. which in the bigger picture is so meaningless it is completely subjective and becomes everything we truly have. Does the answer stop there? Why are we here to survive to survive? Alien ant farm at its finest? Im obviously just rambling and im probably completely fucking wrong. Lets be honest. Your guess is as good as mine.
It is what we make of it. If youre confused and hurt try not wondering and not feeling. Is life any fuller?
Because on some barbaric instinct driven way, it makes us feel good. Survival of the fittest. In an age like now, in western society primarily, where you dont need to hunt or gather or throw a punch for a sexual mate what else can we do than throw words and taunts and insults to show we're still the alpha, we're still number 1, our genes are still worth preserving.
I'm beginning to head in the direction of the post above. Religion may not be right, or it may be dead on. No one truly knows. But questions answered through science can make one feel rather pessimistic, boring, sad, and just plain lost. It feels good to know the answers to your questions and be a part of that, even if youre wrong. Ignorance is bliss right? Whats so wrong with that?
Also something i think about with topics like this (im probabyl just ramblnig). But in my opinion (not really scientific ill be honest) the human brain is as smart as it will ever be, and as smart as it has ever been. But i liken it to a computer. Go out and buy the best computer money can buy today april 25th 2009. Now go back to the year 1750. Its useless. Why? No one knows how to use it. I think thats sort of our brain...If its true that we only use just barely 10 percent of our brain then theres a whole 90 percent more we dnot know how to use.
The truthful answer, or what we want the answer to be? I've found our existence to be pretty darn pointless. The meaning of it is the same for a goldfish, or a zebra, or a bird. We survive to survive. We survive today, so that we or some form of our species can survive tomorrow. So we have instincts hard wired to help us do that but with a human (and maybe some other specific animals) we have a brain that is capable of higher levels of cognition. In combination with our (some would say barbaric) instinct, we have not only short term memory but long term memory as well, critical thinking etc.... I think its the truest definition of a conscious (or at least the truest we've ever seen). So as a result we have the conscious/higher cognitive ability to wonder why and how and thats just what we do. But i think on a sub-conscious level a simple "survive to survive" answer just isnt good enough so we create a "deeper" meaning through our work, love, passions etc. which in the bigger picture is so meaningless it is completely subjective and becomes everything we truly have. Does the answer stop there? Why are we here to survive to survive? Alien ant farm at its finest? Im obviously just rambling and im probably completely fucking wrong. Lets be honest. Your guess is as good as mine.
It is what we make of it. If youre confused and hurt try not wondering and not feeling. Is life any fuller?
Because on some barbaric instinct driven way, it makes us feel good. Survival of the fittest. In an age like now, in western society primarily, where you dont need to hunt or gather or throw a punch for a sexual mate what else can we do than throw words and taunts and insults to show we're still the alpha, we're still number 1, our genes are still worth preserving.
I'm beginning to head in the direction of the post above. Religion may not be right, or it may be dead on. No one truly knows. But questions answered through science can make one feel rather pessimistic, boring, sad, and just plain lost. It feels good to know the answers to your questions and be a part of that, even if youre wrong. Ignorance is bliss right? Whats so wrong with that?
Also something i think about with topics like this (im probabyl just ramblnig). But in my opinion (not really scientific ill be honest) the human brain is as smart as it will ever be, and as smart as it has ever been. But i liken it to a computer. Go out and buy the best computer money can buy today april 25th 2009. Now go back to the year 1750. Its useless. Why? No one knows how to use it. I think thats sort of our brain...If its true that we only use just barely 10 percent of our brain then theres a whole 90 percent more we dnot know how to use.
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