I've been drinking rather heavily as a warning in advance of any parts that don't make sense. On to my point, I just witnessed a rather intense hour or so mix of trolling, flaming, and incompetent moderation on chat, which has left me with some thoughts. How exactly can one tell if somebody or themselves is beyond being helped, or unworthy and undeserving of it? I noticed all it takes is a few unkind words, some unpleasant thoughts, etc on chat for someone to go from being worth listening to and offering support to being someone that should kill themselves in the most unpleasant of manners. I could just as easily be those people. People will say everyone deserves help, but the real word is just so inconsistent with that satement. So what I want to know, is there any actual way to tell if you are one of these people? Or do you just have to act off of gut instinct and the experiences gained with other people to figure out if you should xxxx, at least in the eyes of others? Is it when they are unable to help themselves? Or when they are an ass? How do you know? Does it even matter?