I don't know if i should be posting here (TW?)

#1
I'm not sure this is the right place for me to post. But i need to get it out of my head, and I'm not ready to talk to my counsellor. But, if this is offensive or in the wrong spot, I'll just delete it. Trigger Warning i guess, ima be talking (not graphically) about sexual stuff. I'm feeling a bit bad about putting this here, because well I wasn't raped. I don't even know if what happened to me is considered sexual abuse, or if it's just my messed up brain blowing this out of proportion. But what happened was sexual, and I can't get it out of my head, 7ish years later.

I'm 16 now, and I haven't seen him in years. But when I was 8-9 years old, I got a "boyfriend". Let's call him 'A'. 'A' was 2 school grades above me (so 10-11 when it started). We were next door neighbors and our families were very close, and my siblings and I would sleep over his place whenever we could. I'm not gonna go into the lovely details of what went on those nights because you don't wanna hear that, and I don't remember specifics anyway. I told him i "loved" him and he said he loved me too. The hopeless romantic that was my 9 year old self was delighted, and so damn naive. All I'm gonna say, is that from that night until I was about 10 years old, we would do sexual things during those sleepovers. It started slow, with him teaching me about sex and sexual things that he'd learned and watching sex videos. But after a while, we started putting it into practice. We'd kiss, play games like spin the bottle, and dirty truth or dare. I remember a couple times him showing me how to masturbate and other less vanilla concepts I'm not gonna get into.

But after a while, i started to realize what we were doing wasn't normal, and that scared me. I remember feeling like I was a child who was dressing up in my mum's clothes. I got more and more reluctant to do things. I started to actively avoid sleeping in the same room as him, but I wasn't really scared; not until he snuck into the room while i was sleeping. I remember always picking truth in dirty truth or dare because I don't want to do anything sexual. Towards the end, when I was 10, I remember telling him that I was on my period, and that i could get pregnant now; I knew that was a lie, we weren't actually having sex, but it was all i could do to get him to stop. I remember feeling helpless the day I finally told him to stop. I remember him picking me up and draging me back to the bed, in the middle of the day, as i tried to get myself out of the situation.

But the thing is, I don't remember saying no. I'm not so sure I ever explicitly told him that what we did wasn't okay. This kind of thing is normal, right? Experimentation. I remember I was laughing as he dragged me back, over and over. It was almost like a game. And maybe the laughter was actually nervous laughter, or an attempt to make it seem okay, to not draw attention, but if i really wanted it to stop, I could have fought harder, or yelled out, or told him to stop. But i didn't. And now I'm stuck in this weird limbo; I can't get what happened out of my head, i panic when i see him, but I have no idea why. I have no reason to fear him. Because my memories paint me as the victim, but I was a participant. Because yes I was 8, but he was 10; I was 9, but we was just 11; when i was 10, he was still only 12. Because my memories focus on what i felt, not what i did; I only remember what he did, not what he said. But now I remember, that first time, he said he felt guilty. And I urged him on. I didn't understand what I was agreeing to, but how can I say he did? He showed me porn and yes I was too young, but he'd just learned about it and he was sharing it with me. It was just a bit of fun. But I can't recall the memory without feeling like the victim. Maybe I should talk to my counsellor about it, but maybe im so hesitant to, because I don't want to be painted as the victim when I was an equal participant. That's why I feel guilty about even posting here, because others have gone through so much worse without there consent, and here i am complaining. I never told him no, and it was just normal experimentation that I'm blowing out of proportion. I just don't understand why its still messing with my head, 7 years after the fact.
 

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Hi @cant_think_of_a_name_ . Sweetie, you were 9 and he was 11. You were both children and didn't know what you were doing, even if it seems to you like you did. You were probably never told what sex and consent meant, you weren't mature enough to understand the consequences. You don't judge a child by the same standards as an adult. Whether you said no or not doesn't change anything, whether you laughed or not doesn't matter either. The only people I would blame for this are your respective parents/carers who didn't protect you well. This kind of "experimentation" shouldn't happen at this age, it shows a great deal of irresponsibility from the adults around (sorry to judge, but it's the truth).

You were a victim, and he was a victim, too. Participants maybe, but no less victims. I don't think it was equal because there were many differences between you and him (age, gender, education, experience with porn...), although I am not blaming him either. Being a victim sounds bad, I also hate calling myself that and probably never will, but the reality is that there is nothing to be ashamed of in being a victim, because what happened was not in your control at all (no, it was NOT).

if i really wanted it to stop, I could have fought harder, or yelled out, or told him to stop. But i didn't.
In any sexual abuse by an adult, the victims end up blaming themselves for not fighting hard enough. This is so wrong. It is NEVER (and I can't stress this enough) the victim's fault. A person can literally stand naked on the street and dance provocatively, it doesn't mean they consent and desire to engage with any person who passes by. For a child, the question is not even about consent : it doesn't happen, period. Children can't understand the implications so they cannot be held accountable, they should be protected. It is perfectly logical why you are still affected by this today : because it should have never happened and it hurt you, like it would hurt any child going through sexual abuse. It left deep scars...

Is there a possibility of you not seeing him again ? I don't think it is a good thing. It is always very hard to judge children, but they do say that kids who don't play with other kids but are more interested in "adult things" have some issues, and that is heartbreaking. They did need therapy back then and these issues could've been solved or not. They still can be "solved" or not, though since it was such a long time ago, the scars grew deeper and it can be more difficult to heal (or not at all).

Also, you were very brave to share this with us, and it's a good first step in your recovery. You can share this with your therapist for them to help you as best as they can when you are ready. You can even print this and give them if it is easier for you. We will support you no matter what, sweetheart. I am so sorry this happened to you. If you ever need to talk in private, you can send me a message, or to anyone else. Take care of yourself ♡ Love and hugs.
 
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GFS

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#3
IMO you should definitely talk about this with your therapist.
It's not a question of "were you a victim or participant". It changes nothing if you said "yes" or "no". It's about the consequences of what happened. And the only thing that matters now is you feeling better and get free of those bad memories. And the only way to achieve that is talking to your therapist.
 
#4
When I first started reading this, I thought I was reading about myself. Our stories are scarily similar. I just wanted to thank you for gathering the courage to write this because it means a lot to me that I'm not alone. If you're comfortable with it I'd love to talk to you about this.
 

Lumos

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#5
A child of 8, 9, 10, anything under 16 can't consent, they do not understand. You were a victim, he was older and seemd to know what he was doing. You would probably feel better to talk about it with a counsellor or someone you trust or even a helpline, it can really help. What happened was not your fault, you're not to blame. *console
 
#6
Thanks for the replies. But i still cant help but feel so guilty for even coming here and talking about it as the more i think about it, the more i feel like it was my own fault and like i deserve no sympathy or understanding. I dont know why what happened still affects me. I dont understand it at all. Because looking back, nothing bad really happened. Nothing was taken too far, it was all just experimentation, natural human curiousity. And i felt it too, sure it felt wrong and at times i didnt really feel i had a choice, but i kept coming back,. No one was making me go there, it was all my choice. Because i was curious too. And maybe he should have stopped after the first incident, when he said he felt guilty and this was wrong, but I told him it was ok, it wasn't actually sex or anything, I talked him into it. So when it comes down to it, I started it. And i dont really remember how we went from talking about crushes to ending up on that couch but that doesnt just happen, someone said something, asked to do it, and maybe that was me. Maybe ive been blaming him for something i instigated. And even if it was all him. It wasnt even all that bad. Just some sexual games, naughty truth or dare, some porn and a small amount of practice. The worst thing we did was touching and oral, it never went past that so i dont know why it upsets me so much, why his very presence gives me so much anxiety. Ok, i get that i dodnt always feel 100% comfortable with what we did, but i dont know if i ever told him this. Ive said before i never wanted to make any scene so i just went along quietly even when i wanted to stop, so maybe he never knew i wasnt ok with it. He did say i never said no. But then i guess there is the time i actually did run, where id been obviously trying to get away, and he kept dragging me back. But im pretty sure i was laughing. Nervous laughter, but laughter all the same. Maybe he thought it was a game. Maybe he didnt understand i was scared and wanted to get out. Yes, i felt so helpless and out of control but maybe he didnt see that. Loke ive said i was quiet anout how i felt, maybe he thought it was okay. That night he came to me when i was asleep, i knew he was in the room yet i pretended to sleep until he was almost on top of me, why didnt i just get up when i first woke ip when i knew what would happen? Its almost as if i did want it, in some sick way, that curiousity kept coming back. So maybe it was all my fault. Maybe i should stop being so scared of him because maybe he didnt do anything to me. After all, it takes two to tango.

When I first started reading this, I thought I was reading about myself. Our stories are scarily similar. I just wanted to thank you for gathering the courage to write this because it means a lot to me that I'm not alone. If you're comfortable with it I'd love to talk to you about this.
Hey. I'm glad that my strory could help you out in some way, even if i dont feel deserving of other peoples kindess on this. Im okay talking with you if youd like, but it would have to be on oublic threads because i dont have access to pms because my account was restricted until i turn 16 and havent told staff or whoever that im 16 now. But if you feel comfortable talking about it with me on this thread or whatever, i am chill with that.
 
#7
That's fine! I was also abused by someone I knew and trusted and who still is a family friend. He lives just next door to us. I was 13 and he was 12 when it happened for the first time. I was hanging out with a group of friends outside the apartment he lives in and it was getting pretty late. One after one everyone left until it was only the two of us left. When I told him I had to go home too he told me to run. He'd only let me go if he couldn't catch me. I ran, but I didn't stand a chance. He caught me and dragged me to a bushy area while I laughed and jokingly told him to let me go. I wasn't afraid, I thought soon enough he'd stop playing around. Without going into details, he didn't. I kept telling him to let me go, trying not to panic. He wouldn't let go, he wanted me to force myself free but he was lying on top of me and was way too heavy. After what felt like forever he let me go and I ran home and everything felt unreal. After that he started calling me and messaging me all the time saying how lonely he was and begging me to hang out with him. I always started off with saying no, again and again, but finally I'd cave in. Then when I begged him to stop he wouldn't listen. After this first couple times we only went further and further. This went on for over 6 months.
 

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