I reckon lack of success with women is the main cause of suicide in men

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  1. stonecastle

    stonecastle New Member

    I reckon that lack of success with women is the main cause of suicide in men. I certainly know that is the reason for my depression. For example as every guy must know rejection by women is as painful as being shot or stabbed. Rejection can feel like being hit by an express train, it knocks the life out of you.
     
  2. youRprecious!

    youRprecious! Antiquities Friend

    I can only imagine (as I'm female) how it is for men, but many women resort to the same solution because of rejection by men, in fact it's harder for us (in my age group anyway (50+) because of the dreams we were raised with, of husband, children etc. being our fulfillment.

    Welcome to SF stonecastle - it's a great place to come to feel UN-rejected - everyone is accepted on here for the treasure that they are, understanding that life is darn hard and full of obstacles, but as well as this reality, there are things we can learn to help us heal through them and to face them with a new perspective. Do hope that this will be your experience too hun, writing it out and having people accept it as genuine and real, is very liberating :)
     
  3. Ldub20

    Ldub20 Well-Known Member

    This--as well as my death sentence--is the reason I am suicidal. If women always rejected inconsiderate, conceited, condescending, stuck-up egotists (men like Gaston from Beauty and the Beast) and made them feel suicidal, the world would be a better place. They need to give humble guys a chance
     
  4. Butterfly

    Butterfly Pokémon Master Staff Alumni SF Author SF Supporter

    Yes but look what happened to Gaston, Dubby.
     
  5. stonecastle

    stonecastle New Member

    By the way I have been studying pick up artist material for the past few years but have still been having trouble getting dates with women. I rarely ever even get a womans' phone number or email address and have only ever been on five dates and those were with women I met off the internet and I never heard from them again. I was given hope when I heard about a guy called Yad several years ago who lives in London because he looks similar to me but has quite good success with women. He teaches guys how to be successful with women but his course cost an awful lot. I have had trouble replicating his success even though I have tried his techniques. Even the women I meet in some of the churches seem so unfriendly. They will chat to me for a bit but none of them want to date me.
     
  6. arrowpenny

    arrowpenny Member

    I am female and pretty much gave up on finding someone to settle down with. I had lots of dates and short relationships in my 20s and early 30s but no one stuck. I believe it is because of my bipolar illness/depression/anxiety. At time I was irrational and acted odd and they probably couldn't handle that so they left. I live online now, rarely go out and talk to folks on a screen. Seems safer.
     
  7. youRprecious!

    youRprecious! Antiquities Friend

    I am sorry about the women you meet in churches seeming so unfriendly, but I DO KNOW exactly what you mean by that! It just should not be, but unfortunately it does tend to be this way, so want to put your mind at rest that it's not your fault but society's fault (and in church societies are many sinners!). I know it is a huge cross to bear not having our life with the breaks in it we had expected to have. It's how we respond to how life is that ultimately determines the outcome - everything actually depends upon our response/reaction - and it is so easy and understandable to think initially "Well, if that's the way life is I don't want to have anything to do with it!" In these conclusions which can seem to us inevitable, there is still the hope in the dark tunnel that we can always choose our response. Society does not have to choose our response for us, and the truth is that no one can force our will.

    There are many women out there who are hoping to find someone who clicks for them. I would suggest give yourself time and not put pressure on yourself, because this can cause anxiety and women generally are not looking for a lover to mother. Always want to enter her world by asking interesting questions - women generally do love someone who they know considers communication important - if you make her feel like she's really special, but not in a desperate way, she'll think you're the best thing since sliced bread :)
     
  8. dvnj22

    dvnj22 Well-Known Member

    I've given up on women. I'm the opposite of what women want so I'd rather not try then put myself through all of that pain, based on false hope. I don't know if that's why I'm suicidal or not.
     
  9. MrSpaceBound

    MrSpaceBound Well-Known Member

    It's not the main reason for my suicidal thoughts/depressed state, but it sure does contribute to it. I've had 1 date in my 25 years, another 15 years and I will be doing a remake of the very popular Steve Carell movie.
     
  10. dvnj22

    dvnj22 Well-Known Member

    I always thought that Andy was better off a virgin then going through all of that crap.
     
  11. pit

    pit Well-Known Member

    I have always avoided rejection from women by stalking them.
     
  12. Theodora

    Theodora Well-Known Member

    Not funny.
     
  13. stonecastle

    stonecastle New Member

    I don't think I am alone in feeling like this as an old school friend killed himself aged 18 apprantly for no reason after leaving a student party back in late 1984. Everyone at the time wondered why on earth he had killed himself at such a young age. But I have for a long time thought it was because he had suffered rejection by girls, given that on the night he died he left a party it could be that he was rejected by several girls at party and it was the final straw. His body was found in the local canal. He also didn't have girlfriend either so I am almost certain that it was his lack of success with girls that drove him to kill himself.
     
  14. mulberrypie

    mulberrypie Well-Known Member

    i'm female, but upon reading these forums, i agree with you that it may be a large contributor to suicide in men, especially on the younger end ( below 40 ), that most likely are still virile, with an active libido. companionship can come in all forms, but it's not the same. the average, healthy male is built with an innate desire for copulation and affection. and i don't mean just w his hand. when a man is forced (or even chooses) to go without this for too long his mental, physical, and emotional health may suffer greatly. his self esteem will might plummet, may withdraw himself, possibly resort to porn addiction(not dissing porn in moderation)/some other vice, or acquire some other mental illness. it's not pretty. i actually knew a guy that wanted to castrate himself. how terrible is that. i think society can being really cruel to men if they're not rich, powerful, good looking, charming etc. seems like there are guys out there whose cup runneth over whilst the rest die of thirst. it kinda angers me, but that's another story. not saying its easy for women, either. just different. anyway, i'll be doing more research on this.
     
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  15. stonecastle

    stonecastle New Member

    I think free plastic surgery should be offered to guys who are suicidal over their lack of success with women. As most often it is bad looks that hold guys back with women. Though people say personality is more important than looks, women are not going to give you a chance to show your personality if they don't like the look of you to start with. Another solution is to take up body building as guys with huge muscles are far more attractive to women. So if you are an ugly guy you can compensate by building up your muscles by working out reguarly in the gym.
     
  16. meaningless-vessel

    meaningless-vessel Well-Known Member

    Utilising the opening statement, and the last post, I'd say that there's too much focus on being alike instead of what makes each individual unique.

    What is success? Is it being with another person? Is it being friends? Is it being lovers/dating/relationship? Whatever it is, perhaps what needs to be considered is not necessarily looking for these things. Making friends happens usually when there is something in common to talk about. So find an avenue of interest for yourself and if someone else is interested in similar (I use me going to karaokes as an example because I like music. I'd chat to other people who sung, as an ice breaker.)

    Most people start somewhere. And some would take a lot more rejection than others. It's just what you do with it. Do you give up because it doesn't work? Or do you change something that may help if given a chance?
     
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