Internet is bad for you mmmmmkay!

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  1. boo

    boo Well-Known Member

    If knowing the internet is the source for your isolation and loneliness, would you stop using it?

    Mr.Garrisson's song from South park by boo :
    Step 1 : Instead of log in, go read a book or play with your friends
    Step 2 : Dont use the I word and you will see there is a we
    Step 3 : Paint a smile on your face and off we play!
    it's easy!!!! MMMMMKAY

    From CNN

    How long have you been sitting there, staring at this screen? Are you spending more and more of your time clicking and typing, typing and clicking? Is there nothing else you'd rather do? Think carefully about the answers to these questions, say psychologists; they may tell a lot about your mental health.

    A growing body of research suggests that excessive Internet use carries some of the same risks as gambling: It can lead to social isolation, depression and failure at work or school.

    Some people -- particularly those who were isolated to begin with -- have forged healthy friendships by meeting kindred souls online. But using the Internet too much can hurt face-to-face relationships. And psychologists say an increasing number of people are using the Internet so obsessively that they are ruining their marriages and careers.

    In one survey of 1,700 Internet users, presented August 24, 1999 at a meeting of the American Psychological Association, 6 percent of those surveyed met the criteria for addiction: They felt a building tension before the act, a rush of relief afterwards and distortions of mood and bingeing.

    Many get hooked on Internet pornography. "We're a nation of puritans," says Dr. Kimberly S. Young, the survey's author and executive director of the Center for On-Line Addiction in Pennsylvania. "And this is the first time in our history we've had something so uncensored in our homes. You can get to very objectionable material in a few keystrokes -- even by accident -- and then it's hard to get out of the site."

    Dan Moore (not his real name), a self-defined compulsive personality-type and workaholic from a Midwestern state, says the Internet destroyed his life. This middle-aged professional is currently going through divorce proceedings from his wife of nine years and has been denied visitation rights with his two children due to his addiction to sex sites. According to Dan, his wife claims that some of the "soft porn" sites he regularly logged on to used minors. "She became obsessed with the thought that I was getting involved in child pornography. She even accused me of molesting my children." Although Dan vehemently denies both charges, he admits that determining the age of women on the plethora of available pornography sites is virtually impossible. "It's like having access to a million adult videos, all for free. It's seductive. You get mesmerized."

    Dan, who has recently begun treatment with an Internet addiction specialist and is taking antidepressant medication, rid his home of both PC and modem. "When I finally realized how it has affected my life, I felt like smashing it, throwing it out the window. Now my compulsion is to try and understand what I've done to myself and my family."

    But it isn't only pornography that attracts addicts to the Internet, says Paul Gallant, a licensed addiction counselor at the Sierra Tucson Center for Addiction in Arizona. Some people are lured by the appeal of creating new identities for themselves. Other users make a habit of online gambling, auctions or stock trading. "Your life may be really boring in reality, but online you're a competitive superhero," Gallant says.

    Even innocent inquiries can become obsessions in a medium where information is limitless, he adds. "Say you're a wine connoisseur, you find this great site and it's linked to another great site. Fine, you've learned a lot more about wine. Then all of a sudden you realize six hours have gone by. You're obsessed with getting more and more information."

    Experts are still debating nearly every aspect of the Internet's effect on mental health. Advocates argue that the new medium's social benefits outweigh its risks. They point to studies like one in the February 2000 issue of the journal American Psychologist that found that many people draw comfort from anonymous discussions with others who share their medical conditions.

    But these studies are balanced by others that reveal a strong link between excessive Internet use and serious mental disorders. For a study in the March 2000 issue of the Journal of Affective Disorders, researchers interviewed 20 people like Moore whose lives had been disrupted by the Internet. Nearly all of them were diagnosed with serious mental illness, such as bipolar disorder. Many were sacrificing sleep to spend an average of 30 hours a week online outside work.

    But does the Internet cause the mental illness, or does mental illness lead people to abuse the Internet? Researchers tried to answer that question in a 1998 study by providing Internet access to 169 people who previously had not been able to log on from home. The researchers reported in American Psychologist that the more time these people spent online, the less time they spent with their families, the smaller their social circles became and the more depressed and lonely they felt. "Even for people who don't manifest addictive behavior, the Internet is almost an invitation to obsession," says Young.
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  2. Prinnctopher's Belt

    Prinnctopher's Belt Antiquities Friend SF Supporter

    Ahh yes. Let's bitch about the risks of internet use while we find more ways to destroy people through wars.
  3. Tobes

    Tobes Well-Known Member

    The difference is that 1. dead people don't have to contribute to society, and 2. the whole world isn't at war.

    And yes I am socially isolated and use the internet too much, but I don't care, because the net offers me more than going outside does. Plus I don't have a job nor do I live with anyone so I am free to do whatever the hell I wish. And I still know how to talk to people without a screen in front of me.
  4. boo

    boo Well-Known Member

    Darth Vader's voice : "your lack of faith is disturbing" :D
  5. aoeu

    aoeu Well-Known Member

    The Internet is my sole source for meeting people. I'd be terribly isolated without it, and bored, and in a whole lot worse shape than I am now.
  6. Tobes

    Tobes Well-Known Member

    Isolation means being separated from something, so no, the internet doesn't isolate. If anything, it brings people together, although not physically (discounting meetings after internet conversation).

    Although I think they are talking about physical isolation.
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  7. pit

    pit Well-Known Member

    I like this site, but the Internet as a whole is pretty overrated.
  8. Robin

    Robin Guest

    A few years I might have agreed with you, BUT THEN LOLCATS APPEARED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  9. johnnysays

    johnnysays Well-Known Member

    Depends on your circumstances. We're, at our core, social beings. The internet, at its core, is a social meeting place, but there're circumstances where the internet is not the optimal social meeting place. For example, school is an excellent opportunity to "log on" without using a computer (and it also happens to be a requirement in life). The same can be said for many other social avenues in life, like the military or clubs or meeting places in the city or parades or voting in the elections. If you don't have to go far to find a social meeting place, you're being more optimal by not logging onto the internet. It's like weighing the value of one thing compared to another and making the most optimal choice.

    If you don't live in a city or town and you're not an extrovert, not in school or in a club, I would think that you're more likely to "log on" using the internet to meet your social demands - to feel "connected" with others and the world around you. There're many examples of this. In many cases it's just a matter of money. Do you spend $15 (or more) to drive to town and visit a pool hall to meet your social needs, or do you log on and play WOW for a fraction of the cost?? This is the dilemma that continues to press for an answer. I've seen so many examples of this that I've lost count. One of two things can happen. It can stay this way or online services will increase their monthly rates. But this won't happen without a financial reason. If we want people to go to town to satisfy themselves intead of loggin on the internet, then there must be a financial savings involved or people will not have strong enough reason. Lots of people live from paycheck to paycheck.

    Many visionaries have forecasted the rise of the internet, including Arthur C. Clarke and many others. They saw it coming half a century ago. They saw the day when travel would become a pleasure, as opposed to a necessity. They saw a day when something like the internet would become our primary social and business environment. Not because people are anti-social, but because it's cheaper. And this reality is coming closer and closer. Business executives are already starting to beam a 3d hologram of themselves to a specified meeting place anywhere in the world, thusly not having to pay airline fees and saving money. Some businesses have staged meetings in Second Life or other internet communities as a test of the environment for that purpose. People have figured out how to make money at home using the internet. Some businesses are so functional that they're able to allow their employees to work from home. Businesses have figured out how to sell their products online as well as offline in retail stores. You can even order your groceries from home. You can watch movies online rather than driving to your local video store. We're only at the beginning stages, but it's advancing fast.

    Not all internet communities are isolated from reality. Second life is a good example of an online community where you find many people who live wild both online and outside. There're also many businesses with property in SL. Interesting place. The internet doesn't have to be a cesspit of anti-social negative people, but sometimes that's what people want and it's not easily changed, both online and offline.

    Now, for my moment of honesty. I'd much rather be driving around the country, exploring its diversity and making friends, but the reality is, I can't afford that. I enjoy to see people smile and to get my chance to make someone smile. I like to see the girls (i'm a lonely guy). I like to see people. People are comforting. The internet is nice, but it's not as good as those things. Oh, maybe I could hitchhike somewhere, but that's too much to ask. The internet for me has become a place for me to discuss ideas and to browse the latest news all around the world. It helps to make me feel connected in a real life that's.... quiet and unsatisfying. Yes, i go for walks at night, but I live in the country and I don't hear people laughing or talking about things. I might hear the faint buzz of traffic on the highway. It's quiet. My RL is silent. Logging on, for me, is the easiest option. Not the most satisfying i can imagine, but it's the most accessible.

    This is a good time to go here and learn about the internet's history:
    At one time, the internet was science fiction!

    Google "information technology" and learn how it has made our world a better place to live in. Even brief thought on this matter uncovers why the internet has grown so boldly and how this technology has reshaped the face of the earth. To give you one example of this I would only reference a library. Go there and query the card catalog and try to find instances of the word "aluminum" in all of the books in the library. Good luck. It will take a while! Storing, copying, and querying data is an important operation in business and computers have helped so much in that regard! Can you imagine copying a book by hand?? (the thought makes my hand sore!) Or a blueprint? People can now instantly transmit these kinds of things to friends and colleagues all around the world. There was a time when these kinds of things had to be shipped by hand and it could take weeks to arrive!!!! Amazing, isn't it? We can see hurricanes several days before they threaten us. Before we had radio and airplanes and cars, people had to communicate knowledge on foot and by horse. Ugggg! The internet is a natural evolution of radio and light-speed communications. One day we may print our product purchases at home without ever having to get it shipped to us! Instead, the blueprint for the product is transmitted and manufactured on the spot.
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