Jesus in the Glorious Qur'an

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  1. muslim

    muslim Well-Known Member

    The Qur’an tells us a lot of wonderful things about Jesus. As a result, believers in the Qur’an love Jesus, honour him, and believe in him. In fact, no Muslim can be a Muslim unless he or she believes in Jesus, on whom be peace.

    The Qur’an says that Jesus was born of a virgin, that he spoke while he was still only a baby, that he healed the blind and the leper by God’s leave, and that he raised the dead by God’s leave.

    What then is the significance of these miracles? First, the virgin birth. God demonstrates his power to create in every way. God created everyone we know from a man and a woman. But how about Adam, on whom be peace? God created him from neither a man nor a woman. And Eve from only a man, but not a woman. And, finally, to complete the picture, God created Jesus from a woman, but not a man.

    What about the other miracles? These were to show that Jesus was not acting on his own behalf, but that he was backed by God. The Qur’an specifies that these miracles were performed by God’s leave. This may be compared to the Book of Acts in the Bible, chapter 2, verse 22, where it says that the miracles were done by God to show that he approved of Jesus. Also, note that Jesus himself is recorded in the Gospel of John to have said, “I can do nothing of my own authority” (5:30). The miracles, therefore, were done not by his own authority, but by God’s authority.

    What did Jesus teach? The Qur’an tells us that Jesus came to teach the same basic message which was taught by previous prophets from God—that we must shun every false god and worship only the one true God. Jesus taught that he is the servant and messenger of that one true God, the God of Abraham. These Quranic teachings can be compared with the Bible ( Mark 10:18; Matthew 26:39; John 14:28, 17:3, and 20:17) where Jesus teaches that the one he worshipped is the only true God. See also Matthew 12:18; Acts 3:13, and 4:27 where we find that his disciples knew him as Servant of God.

    The Qur’an tells us that some of the Israelites rejected Jesus, and conspired to kill him, but Allah (God) rescued Jesus and raised him to Himself. Allah will cause Jesus to descend again, at which time Jesus will confirm his true teachings and everyone will believe in him as he is and as the Qur’an teaches about him.

    Jesus is the Messiah. He is a word from Allah, and a spirit from Him. He is honoured in this world and in the hereafter, and he is one of those brought nearest to Allah.

    Jesus was a man who spoke the truth which he heard from God. This can be compared with the Gospel According to John where Jesus says to the Israelites: “You are determined to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God” (John 8:40).

    The Virgin Birth of Jesus
    Muslims believe in the virgin birth of Jesus. When the angels announced to Mary (peace be upon her) about Allah’s promise that she will have a son, she was surprised, since she was a virgin. “How can this be?” she thought. She was reminded that it is easy for Allah to create whatever he wills.

    She said: My Lord! How can I have a child when no mortal hath touched me? He said: So (it will be). Allah createth what He will. If He decreeth a thing, He saith unto it only: Be! and it is (Qur’an 3:47).

    It is not difficult for Allah to do anything he wants. He can create a child with both human parents or only one. No miracle is beyond His power. After all, He had created Adam (peace be upon him) from neither a man nor a woman. He created the rest of us from both man and woman. What is so hard if Allah decides to create a human being from a woman only? He only commands “Be!” and it occurs.

    Some people think that since Jesus, peace be upon him, had no human father then God must be his father. The Qur’an rejects this view. The position of Jesus with Allah is comparable to the position of Adam with Allah. Just because Adam had no human parent does not mean we should call him the Son of God.

    Lo! the likeness of Jesus with Allah is as the likeness of Adam. He created him from dust, then He said unto him: Be! and he is. (Qur’an 3:59).

    According to the Qur’an, everyone except Allah are His servants.

    And they say: the Beneficent hath taken unto Himself a Son. Assuredly ye utter a disastrous thing, whereby almost the heavens are torn, and the earth is split asunder and the mountains fall to ruins, that ye ascribe to the Beneficent a son, when it is not meet for (the Majesty of) the Beneficent that He should chose a son. There is none in the heavens and the earth but cometh unto the Beneficent as a slave. (Qur’an 19:88-93)

    The Miracles of Jesus
    According to the Qur’an, Jesus, on whom be peace, performed the following miracles by Allah’s leave:

    1. Spoke while he was only a baby.
    2. Healed those born blind.
    3. Healed the lepers.
    4. Revived the dead.
    5. Breathed life into a bird made of clay.

    In the Qur’an Allah quotes Jesus, peace be upon him, as saying:

    Lo! I come unto you with a sign from your Lord. Lo! I fashion for you out of clay the likeness of a bird, and I breathe into it and it is a bird by Allah’s leave. I heal him who was born blind, and the leper, and I raise the dead, by Allah’s leave. And I announce to you what you eat and what you store up in your houses. Lo! herein verily is a portent for you if you are to be believers.
    And (I come) confirming that which was before me of the Torah, and to make lawful some of that which was forbidden unto you. I come unto you with a sign from your Lord, so keep your duty to Allah and obey me. Lo! Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him. That is a straight path. (Qur’an 3: 49-51).

    Again, in the Qur’an Allah tells us about the situation on the Day of Judgement:

    In the day when Allah gathers together the messengers and says: What was your response (from mankind)? they say: We have no knowledge. Lo! Thou, only Thou art the Knower of Things Hidden.
    When Allah says: O Jesus, son of Mary! Remember My favour unto you and unto your mother; how I strengthened you with the holy Spirit, so that you spoke unto mankind in the cradle as in maturity; and how I taught you the ******ure and Wisdom and the Torah and the Gospel; and how you did shape of clay as it were the likeness of a bird by My permission, and did blow upon it and it was a bird by My permission, and you did heal him who was born blind and the leper by My permission . . . (Qur’an 5:109-110)

    Not all of these miracles are recorded in the canonical gospels, the four gospels contained in the Christian Bible.

    The fact that Jesus spoke while he was yet a baby is not written anywhere in the Bible. This should not be surprising, because none of the Gospels can claim to recover every single event in the life of Jesus. Instead, the gospel According to John seeks to emphasize that the events were too many to record.

    Similarly, the miracle of breathing life into a bird made of clay is not attested by the Christian Bible. This too should not make us wonder. It is obvious that the writers of the gospels could write down only the tradition that was available to them. Furthermore, they could not write down everything they knew about Jesus for they were writing on papyrus material that were very limited in length.

    What is worthy to notice here is that the Prophet Muhammad, may peace and the blessings of Allah be upon him, was honest enough to promulgate this information about Jesus. The religion taught by God through Muhammad would deny the divinity of Jesus. Any human being, therefore, who wished to deny the divinity of Jesus would have tried to belittle Jesus. Since Christians looked upon the miracles of Jesus as a proof of his divinity, we might expect that any human being who tries to deny the divinity of Jesus would not have informed people of miracles not previously known to them. He might have even tried to deny some of the miracles recorded in the canonical gospels. On the other hand, the prophet Muhammad honestly conveyed the message delivered to him from Allah. (May the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him.)

    Allah tells us the truth without fear. Human beings trying to win followers tell us only what is conducive to winning us over. They usually withhold information that could lead to opposite conclusions. On the other hand, Allah informs us about the miracles of Jesus even if people use this information to support their prior commitment to the doctrine of the divinity of Jesus. Allah does not need to win worshippers. Those who worship Allah does so for their own good. And those who worship false gods do so to their own detriment.

    What Allah emphasizes, though, is that the miracles of Jesus do not prove he was divine. The miracles he performed were a sign, a proof, that he was God’s messenger. He performed them with God’s help and permission. Those who use his miracles as proof of his divinity would choose to forget the following sayings of Jesus:

    I can of my own authority do nothing. (John 5:30)

    They also forget the declaration of Peter:

    Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves know. (Acts 2:22 KJV).

    These passages suggest that Jesus did not do miracles on his own. These, rather were accomplished by God’s leave. Allah reminds us of this. Jesus also constantly repeated to his audience that the miracles he performed were by God’s leave.
  2. xan

    xan Chat Buddy

    How can you trust books that are thousands of years old and claim that they are stillt he whole truth. To do that you would first have to say that no man is corrupt and every person is trustworthy, which would compare them to your jesus or muhamad. Otherwise they would naturally change it, write it and trnslate it into the way they thought suited best. And with these new books being dug up and hidden away by the catholic church because they might reveal things about jesus they don't want us to know.... seems a little odd when you think about it doesn't it. What could there possibly be in those books that would need to be hidden if jesus was perfect and the bible is totally true? Organised religion is like a government over religion, they've become increasingly corrupt over the years and can bend the laws and rules to suit their own means, adding and taking what they want when they want... So I don't think it is necessary to be bound by a religion that you have to believe everything it says in, i think you can believe in god or jesus or the creation story of any religion, most of which are a load of crap with too many flaws and never should be taken literally. You should also be able to say that no i do not believe in that just because that book says it happens. I believe in what i feel inside me to be right, if there is a god then surely that is enough because if he is everywhere then why do you need to go to a church or building to worship and celebrate and listen to a man who knows as little about the workings of the universe as you preach to you from an out dated book....?
  3. ACRon

    ACRon Well-Known Member

    Im gonna go out on a limb here muslim but can I just ask if you have anything to say other than what you've learnt in the quran? looking at your previous posts so far you have nothing to say to anyone that doesn't come directly from a book. You don't have to prove yourself or anything but a little bit of personality goes a long way.
  4. Ziggy

    Ziggy Antiquitie's Friend

    So Jesus was born of a virgin?

    Well apparantly Zoroaster also was.
    And Mithra.
    And Dekanahwideh, Montezuma and Huitzilopochtli.
    And what about Hunahpu and Xbalanque.

    I'm really not quite sure what this proves though.

    Oops I forgot Danae and Semele.
    And Horus.
    And let's not forget poor old Adonis...
    Apologies to anyone I've missed.
  5. Terry

    Terry Antiquities Friend Staff Alumni

    Ok now I'm offended.

    I'm catholic, I feel no need to preach at the general populace or try to convert anyone. My faith is my own and private, but if you're going to start saying Christ wasn't the Son of God, then WE'VE GOT A FIGHT GOING!!

    please keep your beliefs to yourself and I'll do the same.
  6. LeaveMeAlone

    LeaveMeAlone Well-Known Member

    fight fight fight...

    you get the explosives i'll get some jet liners. cos only one thing is for certain our all powerful all knowing gods, can't fight each other themselves.
  7. helena

    helena Staff Alumni

    I agree on that, LeaveMeAlone, most wars are foght in the name of god,regardless the name given.
  8. Ziggy

    Ziggy Antiquitie's Friend

    Why be offended by what other people believe?
    You can judge for yourself whether these beliefs are valid or not.

    The only thing that can be offensive is how people act and behave according to those beliefs.

    You can believe what you want. Fair enough. As long as you don't lecture me, dismiss my ideas, tell me I'm a bad person for believing differently than that's ok.

    I've no problem with what has been said but that large blue font is a bit harsh on the eyes. Just 'cos something's bigger and bluer doesn't make it truer. (hey that's catchy!)
  9. Terry

    Terry Antiquities Friend Staff Alumni

    Not funny Matt, one of my friends was badly injured in the London bombings and I see nothing to laugh at in that.

    Also, are only atheist allowed to get angry at the views expressed here?
  10. Terry

    Terry Antiquities Friend Staff Alumni

    Sorry guys, but this blokes' posts are driving me up the bloody wall.

    and yeah the fecking coloured font don't help either.
  11. theleastofthese

    theleastofthese SF Friend Staff Alumni

    Religion and Politics - ouch!! I'm not offended by this thread, tho the big blue font is a bit much, but other things may offend/trigger me that don't bother others. We all have our limits of what we can tolerate. I personally do best when I 'agree to disagree', tho that's not always the ideal and I'm but one person among many. I once saw a bumper sticker that put it well, imho: GOD IS TOO BIG TO FIT INSIDE JUST ONE RELIGION. Be that as it may, I'm just going to read the posts and ponder them to myself unless they appear threatening or something otherwise demeaning. I just choose to believe differently than some, that's all.


    I agree with Helena tho that so many wars and "disagreements" are in the name of someone's God. I am ashamed for the Christian faith when I think of the Crusades...:sad: and "Onward Christian Soldiers" is a hymn I will never sing as I consider the phrase "christian soldiers" to be an oxymoron. Just my opinion...
  12. tip

    tip Guest

    I like muslims...i've got alot of muslim friends and lve in a muslim area

    but I just can't stand all this trying to convert people, people should be free to mae their own choices.

    Where I'm from muslim boys were encouraged to convert you asian girls from other religions, and then would get blessings in heaven or something

    thats REAL TALK, I'm not making it up I actualy SAW the fucking leaflets man.

    Muslims are being very negatively portrayed in the media but they are far too old fashioned and are live the philosphy that your muslim or your against them.

    O and all this "hijab" and "veil" shit going on, you DO know it's NOT in their religion to wear that stuff? Just apparently Mohammed's wives did, its more an arabic culture thing to protect from the heat too.

    that thing about hiding themselves from other men and all that, how arrogant is that?

    Also women are big time supressed in Islam, there was a program recently on, the women can't even pray with the men!

    Sorry to get on my soap box (oh the irony), but I'm someone with inside knowledge over many many years, I just want people to know the truth. I'm not slanging the religion, just the idiots that twist it into something very hateful.

    For eg. in Islam they believed in helping the mentally ill, while in Christianity they thought they were evil and should be flogged!
  13. Terry

    Terry Antiquities Friend Staff Alumni

    Yeah Tip, like you I have muslim friends and the rubbish that is spouted by the damn imams, not a word of it in the Koran.

    My best friend is muslim and at uni some of the muslim guys spat on her cos she didn't cover her hair..I mean WTF !!!!
  14. muslim

    muslim Well-Known Member

    al salam 3alaikom
    first of all i am one of that pure family
    i will not reply for every one here by his name
    that is my reply for all my family
    some of them i felt that they r very near from me
    and some of them want to fight me
    my aim here is to let u know true islam
    i am sorry that islam is misunderstood all over the world
    i said before some friends wants to know about islam and cant find the way
    some of u when they read (MUSLIM BROTHER post) they be angry and are ready for attack
    and sorry for my big blue font it doesnt mean that if u read it big and blue u will be muslims
  15. Abacus21

    Abacus21 Staff Alumni

    Muslim, it seems to me, and to the rest of the members here, as you can see, believe you are converting them to Islam.

    Please either change the way you speak, or realise that this site isn't a religious site .... it's a support site for suicidal people, and the talk isnt appropriate here!!
  16. theleastofthese

    theleastofthese SF Friend Staff Alumni

    Just a little suggestion to the members here who take offense at this thread: Please don't read or respond to it if it gets you that upset. Muslim seems to be very "preachy", yes, but that's also a cultural thing. We have our "evangelicals" over here, just as preachy, and can be just as obnoxious/triggering.

    Religion is a very incendiary topic for many, so please, just to keep the site from going up in flames, please don't read or respond if this thread upsets you - thanks!

    least, the pacifist
  17. kindtosnails

    kindtosnails Staff Alumni

    couldn't agree more.
  18. poison

    poison Well-Known Member

    RELIGION! Kills folks dead!

    sorry, but seriously... this isn't the place to argue religious beliefs, even though I don't have any control over it. I shall now bow to Abacus. :biggrin:
  19. poison

    poison Well-Known Member

    That cracked me up. even though it isn't appropiate for this thread. :wink:
  20. the other guy

    the other guy Well-Known Member

    I'm a Reverend of the Unity Lite Church. Which does not teach "Hell"

    It is belived by some religions that Catholics started the "hell" teachings so people would goto church and give offerings (money) for forgiveness.

    Its nice to be part of a church that does not preach damnation.
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