Discussion in 'Soap Box' started by Aquariamethystea, Jun 8, 2007.

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  1. If you don't give yourself to Jesus, therefore giving away your sins, does Jesus steal your sins? Like, if I were to say to Jesus, "No, they are my sins, damnit! I lived long and worked hard for those sins. You can't expect me to give them away to you. Those sins are a part of who I am." I wonder if Jesus would be pissed at me, or if he would forgive me because obviously I have problems. My girlfriend and I have given this alot of thought, and we wondered what would happen in case we want to keep our sins, especially the naughty ones, hehe.
  2. Yeah, Jesus died for my sins but what if I wanted to keep them? I didn't really get much of a choice really. It's almost like Jesus is mugging me for my sins or something, I don't know. I mean, being Christian is great but it's almost like you don't really get a choice--this man died to save you but what if you wanted to try a new route to things?
    I think he stole mine and I'm not too fond of that. What would my life had been like if I had kept them? Some of my sins are rather nice and some are repeatitive for a reason :tongue:

  3. If Jesus is desperate for your sins, perhaps he feels lonely being perfect. It is like sports. You can watch it over and over. Or like watching porn. You can watch it over and over too. Though eventually, you'll want action. It is similar to rape. People who rape do so because they either can't get any consensual sex, or they like the feeling of power.
  4. So, essentially, it is like Jesus is raping us of our sins. Oddly enough, you could view the whole Mary-pregnancy thing as God had raped her. Mary did not willingly have sex with God yet he still had her become pregnant--which was most definately not on her agenda. :blink:
    Still though, I sort of feel like Jesus has forced himself upon me. I did not personally ask for him to take my sins, I would have rather lived my life and figured out what was right and wrong without knowing he was taking care of the wrong.
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  5. Well, then I suppose Satan is the repo man, to give back the sins Jesus stole from us.
  6. Lavendere

    Lavendere Active Member

    Wow, never thought of that before. lol
  7. So, if you have not "accepted" Jesus in your life but he still takes everyone's sins away because we're human and he died for us...then isn't it sort of wrong? Either we're using Jesus to our advantage (treating him like crap/no punishment) or he's using us because...well, why does he want our sins anyway? Why take them away? Does he benefit from these sins? It's what's making us human. I don't know but I'm just tired of everyone saying how Jesus has taken my sins away--I want them back, damnit! I am human!

  8. Deuteronomy 5:6-18
    17You shall not murder. Neither shall you commit adultery. Neither shall you steal.

    Also interesting :

    18Neither shall you covet your neighbour’s wife. Neither shall you desire your neighbour’s house, or field, or male or female slave, or ox, or pet, or anything that belongs to your neighbour.
  9. Azul

    Azul Well-Known Member

    Jesus says a lot of crazy things
  10. sadsong

    sadsong Staff Alumni

    Please stop saying offensive statements. How dare you accuse Jesus/God of rape?!?! I've never heard anything so offensive in my life. You may not believe in the sanctity of Jesus and God but there many people here who do, myself. If you want it explained about sins and how actually anyone who followed God would not want to be a sinner then i would be happy to answer it for you. If you don't believe in God then being a sinner shouldn't really be an issue to you. In the meantime please do not post such offensive statements as these. Stop being so childish and trying to stir up trouble. If you continue to post comments like these i will have great joy in placing you under moderation.
  11. ~PinkElephants~

    ~PinkElephants~ Senior member

    Thank you sadsong...I appreciate you posting that statement. I am not a religious person, I haven't been since I was 12 years old after my parents gave me the choice...however I find this thread offensive.

    That is fine that you don't want to "give up" your sins but to say that jesus "raped" you of your sins is wrong....and as to say jesus would take your "naughty sins..hehe" Jesus would not take the naughty sins b/c it is not sinful to make love...Jesus said "thou shall not have pleasure" so therefore your naughty sins would not be looked upon as naughty.

    Also, did you guys sit on MSN or Skype and decide to do this thread because if you look at the time stamps on when things were basically both posted one after another within minutes of each others post?? And this isn't trying to stir up trouble??
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  12. LostMyMind

    LostMyMind Well-Known Member

    Jesus hates me. :mad:
  13. sadsong

    sadsong Staff Alumni

    Jesus doesn't hate anybody. Jesus love you (oh so cheesy but oh so true). Why do you feel he hates you?
  14. Esmeralda

    Esmeralda Well-Known Member

    I agree that the God/rape thing is very offensive. Not to mention that Mary consented to bear His son and there was no sex involved.

    Anyway, I am Catholic, and in our religion, you are fully within your rights to retain your sins. You must first of all confess them, but when you confess, you must be truly sorry for having committed them and also intend to not commit the same sins again. Otherwise, it doesn't count.

    So there you go.
  15. He states in the beginning that he was talking to his girlfriend and she mentioned it or such. Being the girlfriend, I'd like to say that it is a serious question/thought. I've thought this for many years and I just think it seems odd for a mainstream religion to suggest such things. Yes, I feel these things are suggested in Christianity and I just find it confusing. I was not meaning to be offensive but I wanted to know if anyone else felt the same. The thread was done in a sort-of playful way but all that was said have been thoughts running through our minds about the subject.
    The time stamps are so because one of us would see something the other had added and felt there was something else to say about it. If we had been serious on stirring up trouble we wouldn't have stopped after just a couple of posts. We were still up hours after the thread was posted actually, both still online.
    I apologize that so many find it offensive--please don't look at the thread any more then. It's in the soapbox for a reason too so it's nice you guys felt you could express your feelings on this though. I really would like to know if anyone else feels this way or had ever had these sort of thoughts about Christianity.
  16. ~PinkElephants~

    ~PinkElephants~ Senior member

    It's also in the soapbox for people to debate on so I am entitled so say what I think and I feel..and I have.
  17. I wasn't saying you couldn't at all. I said I thought it was nice that you all felt you could express your thoughts on the subject.
  18. ~PinkElephants~

    ~PinkElephants~ Senior member

    i think this thread should be closed due to the fact that people aren't really taking into consideration or aren't concerned with others feelings...especially when Jesus raped us of our sins. If you aren't religious FINE...don't be...that's your choice. I am not religious..I don't believe in religion at all but I'm not going to condemn people or look down on people for their religions or their beliefs. And why do we only target Christians.....why not Budhists, Protestants, etc. Let people dive into their religions how they feel and you can take your sins and keep them if you wish...that's a choice.

    P.S. I don't believe the whole God created us....APES...FECKIN APES. :hug:
  19. Bostonensis

    Bostonensis Guest

    I have the same questions about the religion that my Mother injected in us. In my family my mother is the ruler & my father is her administrator. " Domingo ,make sure the children went to church" she yelled at my dad. Well my Dad is an orphan & I really believed he was confused himself. And my Dad once told my Mother,only once I heard this; how could you stand the noise inside when you could not even understand what the priest is talking about becoz everybody is talking out of the monotony of not understanding. This church where we lived is humungous & there is a problem of the echo system inside. If you are out side you can understand what the priest is saying but inside sounds like a fast forward tape playing. This is true ,many said it is because of the architectural flaw in the design so they changed it. Nevertheless it did not convinced my father to believed in the religion. This is a huge issue in my family between me ,my oldest brother who took the position of my Dad after he died,& my oldest sister who is now the ruler.This religion when touch as a subject in my family my brother & I has to leave the voting privileges becoz we do not count as an agnostics.In my father's will ,he didvided all the property equally.But my mothers words remain the same,overridding my father's wishes ,becoz it is ingrained in our brain .
    So it saddened me to know how we the unbelievers have to walk in eggshells threatened our priveleges in order to speak our mind. This is a traumatizing memoery for me to have my beloved Mother disappointed with me becoz of my unwillingness to surrender for my own non beliefs.This is a reminder to all of us how religion can subjugate us into compliance or rage through humiliation becoz of our non beliefs. Can we embrace the fact that we are humans too? And maybe we are here for a reason in this forum if we flip the coin. If we cannot accept that it is part of human dignity that is torn apart when we are coerced into a silence based upon our beliefs or non beliefs it is truly a pleasure for me to leave this forum to show my defiance in the face of coercion. This is a reenactment of my mourning that is left unresolve to this day when my Mom passed away so disappointed with Dad, me & my brother. A solid family based on love but equally divided by faith( in this case no faith or unfaith?I am confused).

    In a world where only love & harmony exists that I know, I humbly ask the SF members to put this issue in a ballot so we can address this issue truthfully & not being threatened by force of coercion ,otherwise , I do not belong here. I value my dignity more than any piece of freedom or privileges in reward of my silence in the voice of coercion at this point.
  20. LostMyMind

    LostMyMind Well-Known Member

    In order for there to be a baby there had to have been sex.
    Unless Jesus was a test tube baby.
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