just stick it out!

Discussion in 'I Have a Question...' started by gkfgjkfldgjdsf, Mar 2, 2006.

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  1. The thing is, I reckon a lot of people want to end it all cos they feel nobody is there for them. The truth is, they are right - nobody is there for anyone, only for themselves...even if ur nice to ppl, you do it cos you want something back - either to feel good, to feel loved or even cos ur using them. If ppl are nice to you they just want to feel good, squre a debt ot gain your affection. If some one of the opposite sex cares for you, its probably cos they want just that, sex.
    The thing is , that is true for everyone, ppl only really care about themselves...but we cant all kill ourselves or there'd be no one left in the world...so lets just get life done and over with...lets just stick it out.
     
  2. tinuviel

    tinuviel Well-Known Member

    I'm realy sorry but I have to disagree with you because there are people who actualy help others because they care for them and not for personal gain, I admit there is not a big number of those kind of people but they do exist, and if you realy want to recognize them than you will, and if you are angry at the whole world then you most likely won't even see the kindnes someone is giving you without wanting anything in return...there are actualy people who care more about others than themselves...
     
  3. BlackPegasus

    BlackPegasus Well-Known Member

    Ofcourse we can feel good from helping others but some hurt when they give all and get treated like dirt in return so it can be double edged. Does it really matter if it makes someone else feel good to do something that makes me feel good? That tells me I must be worth something.

    Mia
     
  4. Robin

    Robin Guest

    What's wrong with being nice to people and feeling good about it, isn't that a win win situation? At least if we're doing that we're not brutally executing 6 million jews.
     
  5. Abacus21

    Abacus21 Staff Alumni

    I'd certainly say it is :)

    I feel very happy because I know I am helping people feel better, and to give them support.
     
  6. I think your view is incredibly cynical. And I think I can see where Robin is coming from there.......

    People do really care - are you telling me that you have never found someone on the internet who doesn't care about you?!.....

    I have made some great friends here - sometimes I help them out - sometimes they help me out - that is what FRIENDS are..... when people help me out - I know that they expect nothing back...... I love the people here for who they are and will always be here for them regardless.

    Sarah
     
  7. Isa

    Isa Well-Known Member

    who cares what the other person gets out of it as long as you help someone
     
  8. Abacus21

    Abacus21 Staff Alumni

    I know I've said 'I agree' to Robin's post, but now I'm gonna do it to Sarah's. She speaks the truth, IMO.
     
  9. fdkgjf

    fdkgjf Guest

    yes ur right, there is nothing wrong with helping people out, all I am saying is, people are extreemely selfish, its human nature and I personally believe that a lot of people get depressed when they feel there s no one there for them, but nobody is TOTALLY there for anyone, everyone has to be selfish to survive and at the end of the day, I personally believe that the path to success is to rely on yourself, not anyone else. Yes, do things for people etc, but make sure you are able to rely on yourself, and people would much rather be WANTED by you than NEEDED. I also think many people become depressed when they see the world for what it really is - there are good things in life but there are an equal number of bad things, and its quite shocking to discover that there is a down side to every worldly situation, but I guess you need to accept that, and live your life knowing thats the way it is. Its just my personal opinion.
     
  10. ....

    .... Guest

    I actually agree with you-

    -quite a bit. That is to say, I completely understand and thoroughly appreciate the reason in your perspective.

    However a cynical view it is, it makes sense.

    Regardless, my less realistic, more idealistic side thinks life has a bit more purpose than that; and presently, for my sanity's sake, I'll give people who do Good and live in the Right the benefit of the doubt.

    Terrific point, though.
     
  11. fdkfhdflg

    fdkfhdflg Guest

    Regardless, my less realistic, more idealistic side thinks life has a bit more purpose than that;

    Life to me has a purpose, definately - it is to find your own meaning and live it out according to that. My personal meaning is to find happiness, but I dont believe you can find that through external circumstances, not even other people - theres a quote: "people spend their whole life searching for happiness when its really inside us all along", and I think thats very true, I also think in most situations, the only person that makes you unhappy is yourself. Another quote I like is "happiness can only exist in acceptance", the world is a flawed place, very flawed, to avoid despair, I think we have to accept it for what it is.
    Thats all
     
  12. ....

    .... Guest

    True enough.

    I understand what you're saying. You've a very fair point.
     
  13. lost in space

    lost in space Well-Known Member

    I believe there are millions, probably billions of people (earths population 6.5 billion right now) that serve or help others sefllessly. Again from Mother Teresa, "Everytime you smile at someone, it is an action of love, a gift to that person, a beautiful thing.":smile:
     
  14. Innocent

    Innocent Guest

    I disagree with some of what you've said and agree with some of what you said. Ok, yes, I do think there is an inner core of us that does things to not only survive, but survive well. But I also feel that people are not just kind to others because of this survival mode. And being kind to others is a good thing, it's something we can do in this life that's good, and it can be unselfish.
    But I agree that if we accepted more that the world is what it is..
    I'm not saying we shouldn't try to change the wrongs in it, I'm not saying that...but, I do think there has to be a level of acceptance in each of us, and the less acceptance we have of our circumstances the harder it is for us. I don't like to get all philosophical...
    I don't know if happiness is for me...at least not the amt of happiness that I desire, I get little bits here and there, I accept that for what it is..
    Since I can't get the happiness I want,
    maybe at least...
    I can help others, to have happier lives...
     
  15. smackh2o

    smackh2o SF Supporter

    If we can have a fully selfish act, why can we not have a fully selfless act?
     
  16. Sa Palomera

    Sa Palomera Well-Known Member

    good point there, h2osmack
     
  17. JohnADreams

    JohnADreams Well-Known Member

    Hmm well anything I say here will fall on deaf ears I think. I doubt that anyone's world view can ever be changed, sadly.
    All I think it comes down to is the fact that, there is nothing wrong with self-interest, even though the world may tell you differently. Self-interest is not selfishness until you sacrifice another's well being for your own interests. The desire to help others is never selfish, because it is never against their own well being, even if some of them think so at the time.

    "You dont need a reason to help people"
     
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