Just wondering, this forum seems to be effective because there's no need for all the back-story and nuance. I mean, for me, there is a dark place that is filled with indescribable pain, a frightening and compelling voice that insists "You know how to make it stop,hurry before it gets worse." Pretty much everyone has been there and needs no introduction to it. But I wonder how many of the people intended to help us actually have first hand knowledge? How many have been to the dark place, or is their knowledge confined to what they learned from a textbook? Sure, they can interview clients, but can the depth and emotional trauma even be decribed in words? Just wondering why SI or attempted suicide seem like such foreign concepts to my doc, when they're an everyday part of my reality.