McCain chooses Sarah Palin for VP

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  1. The_8th_Wonder

    The_8th_Wonder senior Member

    On Friday August 29th presidential candidate John McCain picked Alaskan Governor Sarah Palin to be his running mate for the upcoming 2008 election. If McCain is elected Palin is one heart beat away from the presidency of the United States. McCain will be the oldest president elected (if he is) at the age of 72. McCain has criticized Barack Obama for his inexperience but Palin has not ever been the governor of Alaska for two years. Many of criticized McCain's choice of Palin because of many reasons. Palin has environmentalists worried because of her "anti-environmental reputation during her 20 months as governor" ~http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2008/8/30/20129/1935. Palin has also stated that she is against abortions in all cases even in those of rape and incest. Palin also believes that creationism should be thought in all public schools.

    On the other side of the argument republicans think that this selection could be great because it could turn Hillary Clinton supporters to John McCain. Palin also attracts the right wing voters to vote for McCain.
     
  2. HappyAZaClaM

    HappyAZaClaM Guest


    ya know, it's funny. every time some new up and coming SCUM bag
    shows up on the world stage, it always seems like.."Oh dear, maybe
    these religious people got it right. this HAS to be the AntiChrist!!"

    too many names to mention. it's like bad TV shows. I finally learned
    to stop saying "it can't POSSIBLY get any worse than this!" cause it
    obviously can. and the great Sarah Palin may just be the REAL
    AntiChrist, and all others before were smokescreens. teasers...
    sneak previews if you will :)

    yep, ol' sarah just might be the real deal. what a comforting thought.
    I know I'll sleep warm and fuzzy tonite just thinking about sarah. but..
    I think I'll put my stuffed cuddly polar bear buddy in the attic afore
    I commence to sawin logs doncha know! in case ol' sarah comes a
    huntin and whatnot!

    Good grief, there may even be a medical team of guys in green
    dragging McTraitor along for the 'hunt' ...on his gurney of course,
    with the drip thing and all.
     
  3. Random

    Random Well-Known Member

    There is something very unsettling about Palin (and McCain too). I can't quite express it. Last time I got that feeling was Bush and Cheney in 2000. I'm not a huge fan of Obama but I'm keeping my fingers crossed that he snatches this election from the clutches of these two.
     
  4. BioHomocide

    BioHomocide Well-Known Member

    Palin seems like a good choice but is far from a great choice. She does have the experience as an executive leader and has some good morals but when it comes down to it... she is way too conservative.

    I don't want any president or VP to be overly conservative. I hate republicans who hold old beliefs too strongly. The world has changed through the years and most of the old ideas are bad ideas. I truly hope that McCain and Palin can take everything into account and be great leaders instead of ok leaders. I hope they can accept that not everyone in the USA is a bible thumbing god worshiping religious fanatic. We need leaders who can lead the masses rather then leaders who only listen to their base supporters....

    I have high hopes for both McCain and Palin and I am looking forward to the next 4 years being in their capable hands.
     
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  5. HappyAZaClaM

    HappyAZaClaM Guest

    >>>There is something very unsettling about Palin (and McCain too). I can't quite express it. Last time I got that feeling was Bush and Cheney in 2000<<

    can't quite put yer finger on it huh?
     
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  6. HappyAZaClaM

    HappyAZaClaM Guest

    >>>I hope they can accept that not everyone in the USA is a bible
    thumbing god worshiping religious fanatic<<<

    really. ya hope that do ya? hmmmm...yeah, me too. and I feel confident
    that they will do exactly that. the inside of my cheek is getting
    a charlie horse from having my tongue rammed into it repeatedly here.

    >>We need leaders who can lead the masses rather then leaders who only listen to their base supporters....<<<

    well as one of the "masses" I can only say that would certainly be
    an interesting change of pace after these...( little quick math..)
    so, what year was it that Thomas Jefferson left office again? well,
    that many years I guess :)

    yes indeed, the "masses" will certainly be only too happy to 'yet again' have a voice
    in how their country is run after HUDDLING lo these many years, uh...yearning to be free and so on.
     
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  7. Hmm...wonder how her 17-year old daughter being pregnant is gonna play out with the Fundies...
     
  8. LostMyMind

    LostMyMind Well-Known Member

    I don't like Palin's views at all and I don't think she is qualified to be vice president. I'm not a huge fan of Obama either, but damn I hope he wins this election. Not McCain and Palin, hell no!!
     
  9. HappyAZaClaM

    HappyAZaClaM Guest

    it should pretty much be delightful fun for as long as they can milk it :)

    much more fun than Cheneys daughter who as far as I can tell WAS
    before the fact and has since pretty been minding her own beezxax all
    the livelong day, even during the 'DEBATES' in 2004.

    perhaps I project my own views on to those of the "MASSES" I don't
    recall ever being "all shook up" about Cheneys daughter and she never
    slammed me in any talking newshead interview sound bytes. so..
    anyway....

    this Sarah Palins 17 year old daughter being preggers is likely much more
    tasty cannonfodder for the media types and the PUNDY's

    poor kid...heh heh!! it's what ya get for havin famous parents. or parent, singular.
    welcome to the real world kid :)

    ya know, we've lost a lot of good comedians over the years,so if the political 'PUNDyS'
    are the new source of entertainment, we should eat drink and make merry!!

    indeed the 'fundies' ...I like that word. it's pejorative without being really
    overtly offensive! if the FUNDIES not to be confused with nor necessarily
    delineated from the PUNDY's) are smart, (sort of like if wishes were horses)....
    they'd play it down, if fact.

    I'm curious about the Obama folk. technically, they could have the
    proverbial field day. but, that has not been their bag, to date, as
    much as I have been aware at any rate... we shall see what we see
    when we see it!
     
  10. HappyAZaClaM

    HappyAZaClaM Guest


    with ya on that. I'd rather have the guy who does the voiceover for
    jack in the box commercials than McIdiot and what's her face.
     
  11. Possibly (hopefully?) just another "bridge going to nowhere"...:smile:
     
  12. HappyAZaClaM

    HappyAZaClaM Guest

    "Bridge over the River NoWhere" good movie title..

    "NoWhere Bridge" good Beatles spoof.

    I think I missed something. specifically the signifigance of the
    bridge reference. speaking of bridges...
     
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  13. http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCandidateFeed7/idUSN3125537020080901

    The things you find on The Net when you wake up at 6:00 in the morning, with time to kill...
     
  14. Random

    Random Well-Known Member


    At a basic level, I can. They're pugs. I'm wary of pugs out of the gate. It saves me some time.

    But it's more than that. You know how there are some people who just aren't very pleasant people but it's really no big deal? And then, there are those few people who are equally unpleasant but you sense that there's something even more disturbing below the surface. It's that kind of thing.
     
  15. HappyAZaClaM

    HappyAZaClaM Guest

    >>>At a basic level, I can. They're pugs<<<

    yes, as in short for repugnantkins. or, *shudder*...republicans.
    since NewSpeak was adopted as the official language for the US..
    oh, kinda sorta right around the time Ronald RayGun was running
    for his second term in 1984..republican or any other word can
    mean pretty much whatever the sayer wants it to mean at the
    time, or more accurately and more incidiously, whatever the utterer
    of whatever word wants the 'listeners' to think it means.

    repugnantkin boiled down to its essence in the modern vernacular
    means reagan, bush, clinton, who is also a member of the secret
    handshake good old boy society along with Kerry in spite of calling
    themselves dems for the purpose of perpetuating the myth of 2
    parties and seperation of powers....then, Bush again for another
    8 years etc..etc..

    that's my own ignorant simplifiied impression of the load of cods
    wallop we've been swallowing for 100 years or more.

    >>>And then, there are those few people who are equally unpleasant but
    you sense that there's something even more disturbing below the surface<<<

    not all that far below the surface. you are referring to McCain/Palin.
    you don't sound confused or in need of further pondering to me.
    I'd say you pretty much nailed it. the repugnantkin agenda, a
    most foul and unsavory state of affairs. I don't see a dimes worth
    of difference in the alleged dems, ceptin' they act nicer, cuter,
    etc...

    Governer Palin lends a frightening credibilty to McCain, whom by the
    way is certainly not the complete idiot we'd like to believe he is and
    refer to him as. no way. but he's always been a loose cannon and
    never a charismatic eloquent speaker. Palin was a great choice,
    for McCain. and the repugnantkin agenda. I'm not so thrilled
    about it my own self.

    nor am I enamoured with Joe Biden. I can't stand the guy. the only
    reason to vote for Obama IN MY opinion is ..he aint McCain and he
    aint a repugnantkin.

    for all the good it will do us, I hope he takes the election. it would
    at least be a last grasp shot in the dark, "how could it POSSIBLY
    be worse" kind of a vote and that is precisely why I will cast said
    vote, for Lord Obama Most Merciful, as the Big FAT PumpkinHead
    (Rush Limburgher) refers to him :)

    you are uneasy about McCain and Palin because they are swine and
    they make your skin crawl. no need to sugar coat it. not yet.
    well, I'm PRETTY sure I can still say McCain is a twerp. it's not
    against the law yet, is it? damn, I hope not.
     
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  16. Random

    Random Well-Known Member

    I think that pretty much sums up my impression of the man. And you're right. It's not all that far below the surface.


    I don't really know what to think of Biden. I don't follow politics too closely. I knew who he was (generally) before he was selected but not much more than that. My impression of him is that I think he's probably basically a good man. But there's a little something below the surface there too. He's been in Washington far too long not to have been tainted to some degree.

    Exactly. Obama isn't really the best we could have hoped for but he's the best we were going to get.

    I guess what I was saying was that yes. They're swine. But aren't most politicians? Some swine are worse than others. And that's what really worries me about these two.

    I'm worried they might actually win. Back in 2000, I knew there was something about Bush and Cheney but I kind of ignored it because I figured they'd lose. Not that I loved Gore or anything. But as they say, lesser of two evils. When I heard they'd won, I knew right then we were in for a bumpy ride.

    Yeah. Exactly.
     
  17. HappyAZaClaM

    HappyAZaClaM Guest

    >>>Back in 2000, I knew there was something about Bush and Cheney but
    I kind of ignored it because I figured they'd lose. Not that I loved Gore or anything. But as they say, lesser of two evils<<

    maybe?? I assumed so as well.


    >>When I heard they'd won, I knew right then we were in for a bumpy ride<<<

    I'm not sure they 'won' in the strictest dictionary definiton of the
    word 'WON' there was some considerable behind the scenes..uh..
    fiddling about as it were before it was 'determined' (apparently)
    that Bush/Cheny, uh..had in fact, won.

    that is however, nitpicking on my part. and the point is, they did in
    fact, take office. and a bumpy ride it is :)

    sadly enough, twas ever thus. one crazy person or another will
    always prevail by whatever means they shall use to prevail.

    as for Biden, he may be an ok guy. obviously Obama has some
    reason for picking him, Joe that is.

    if memory serves, Joe Biden was at one time in another galaxy
    far far away, somewhat more vocal about his gun control fascism
    than he is lately.

    so was Gore, to his detriment, in my opinion. the dems are learning :)
    slowly but slowly."keep yer yaps shut about gun control. no sane person
    wants to hear about it."

    the very idea that the world or the country would be a safer place
    if the citizens were not allowed to bear arms is so patently absurd
    that it literally does not bear debate, or even contemplation.

    anyway, the Supreme Court recently made an unprecedented ruling
    in FAVOR of the constitution. tis a strange strange and incongruous
    world we live in, brother random!
     
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  18. HappyAZaClaM

    HappyAZaClaM Guest

    >>>Re: McCain chooses Sarah Palin for VP

    Possibly (hopefully?) just another "bridge going to nowhere"...
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    oh, THAT bridge to nowhere.... I's a little slow on the uptake there.
    no, I had no idea. indeed, there is only so much swill any one person
    can absorb in a given lifespan. I confess total ignorance on this one.

    interesting. see? I don't know whether to pay MORE or LESS attention
    to the "news" and to the shenanigans of the various and sundry swine
    politicians/movers/shakers in this country let alone the entire world.

    but thanks for the eye opener! I really didn't know what you meant.
    there was one little tasty morsel of comedy in the article! it's almost
    like when John Cleese would say "and now for something..completely
    different" on the Monty Pythons Flying Circus Brit TV show.

    the journalist in this instance used a standard catch all 'phrase'
    which I interpret as humor, though I could be totally wrong...
    THE journalist wrote...(ahem) "Palin's spokeswoman in Alaska was
    not immediately available to comment"

    no fooling :)

    gee, I wonder why that might be!
     
  19. Random

    Random Well-Known Member

    Well, I'm not so sure they won either. But it was apparent from the moment the were declared the winners that it was basically a lost cause to grumble about it.

    I think Obama didn't really have much choice. He was pretty much badgered into picking somebody who'd been around for a while. I think he had to make a "safe" choice. Except I don't know how safe he is because I kind of get the impression a lot of folks are lukewarm on him.

    And yeah. The gun control thing always has been wacky. I guess if Biden has been active in that area in the past, his views probably haven't changed much. The real hardcore gun grabbers are just as crazy as those on the far right.
     
  20. HappyAZaClaM

    HappyAZaClaM Guest


    >>>The real hardcore gun grabbers are just as crazy as those on the far right<<<

    can't argue with that. there's a lot of nitwits who are also 2nd amendment
    advocate. some of them (no names..ok Ted Nugent) make a bad
    case for 2nd amendment advocacy. oh well, nuthin I can
    do about it. it's like the whole world wants to be on the jerry springer
    show or something. nutjobs abound...
     
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