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McCain chooses Sarah Palin for VP

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On Friday August 29th presidential candidate John McCain picked Alaskan Governor Sarah Palin to be his running mate for the upcoming 2008 election. If McCain is elected Palin is one heart beat away from the presidency of the United States. McCain will be the oldest president elected (if he is) at the age of 72. McCain has criticized Barack Obama for his inexperience but Palin has not ever been the governor of Alaska for two years. Many of criticized McCain's choice of Palin because of many reasons. Palin has environmentalists worried because of her "anti-environmental reputation during her 20 months as governor" ~http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2008/8/30/20129/1935. Palin has also stated that she is against abortions in all cases even in those of rape and incest. Palin also believes that creationism should be thought in all public schools.

On the other side of the argument republicans think that this selection could be great because it could turn Hillary Clinton supporters to John McCain. Palin also attracts the right wing voters to vote for McCain.
 
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On Friday August 29th presidential candidate John McCain picked Alaskan Governor Sarah Palin to be his running mate for the upcoming 2008 election. If McCain is elected Palin is one heart beat away from the presidency of the United States. McCain will be the oldest president elected (if he is) at the age of 72. McCain has criticized Barack Obama for his inexperience but Palin has not ever been the governor of Alaska for two years. Many of criticized McCain's choice of Palin because of many reasons. Palin has environmentalists worried because of her "anti-environmental reputation during her 20 months as governor" ~http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2008/8/30/20129/1935. Palin has also stated that she is against abortions in all cases even in those of rape and incest. Palin also believes that creationism should be thought in all public schools.

On the other side of the argument republicans think that this selection could be great because it could turn Hillary Clinton supporters to John McCain. Palin also attracts the right wing voters to vote for McCain.

ya know, it's funny. every time some new up and coming SCUM bag
shows up on the world stage, it always seems like.."Oh dear, maybe
these religious people got it right. this HAS to be the AntiChrist!!"

too many names to mention. it's like bad TV shows. I finally learned
to stop saying "it can't POSSIBLY get any worse than this!" cause it
obviously can. and the great Sarah Palin may just be the REAL
AntiChrist, and all others before were smokescreens. teasers...
sneak previews if you will :)

yep, ol' sarah just might be the real deal. what a comforting thought.
I know I'll sleep warm and fuzzy tonite just thinking about sarah. but..
I think I'll put my stuffed cuddly polar bear buddy in the attic afore
I commence to sawin logs doncha know! in case ol' sarah comes a
huntin and whatnot!

Good grief, there may even be a medical team of guys in green
dragging McTraitor along for the 'hunt' ...on his gurney of course,
with the drip thing and all.
 

Random

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There is something very unsettling about Palin (and McCain too). I can't quite express it. Last time I got that feeling was Bush and Cheney in 2000. I'm not a huge fan of Obama but I'm keeping my fingers crossed that he snatches this election from the clutches of these two.
 

BioHomocide

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Palin seems like a good choice but is far from a great choice. She does have the experience as an executive leader and has some good morals but when it comes down to it... she is way too conservative.

I don't want any president or VP to be overly conservative. I hate republicans who hold old beliefs too strongly. The world has changed through the years and most of the old ideas are bad ideas. I truly hope that McCain and Palin can take everything into account and be great leaders instead of ok leaders. I hope they can accept that not everyone in the USA is a bible thumbing god worshiping religious fanatic. We need leaders who can lead the masses rather then leaders who only listen to their base supporters....

I have high hopes for both McCain and Palin and I am looking forward to the next 4 years being in their capable hands.
 
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There is something very unsettling about Palin (and McCain too). I can't quite express it. Last time I got that feeling was Bush and Cheney in 2000. I'm not a huge fan of Obama but I'm keeping my fingers crossed that he snatches this election from the clutches of these two.
>>>There is something very unsettling about Palin (and McCain too). I can't quite express it. Last time I got that feeling was Bush and Cheney in 2000<<

can't quite put yer finger on it huh?
 
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Palin seems like a good choice but is far from a great choice. She does have the experience as an executive leader and has some good morals but when it comes down to it... she is way too conservative.

I don't want any president or VP to be overly conservative. I hate republicans who hold old beliefs too strongly. The world has changed through the years and most of the old ideas are bad ideas. I truly hope that McCain and Palin can take everything into account and be great leaders instead of ok leaders. I hope they can accept that not everyone in the USA is a bible thumbing god worshiping religious fanatic. We need leaders who can lead the masses rather then leaders who only listen to their base supporters....

I have high hopes for both McCain and Palin and I am looking forward to the next 4 years being in their capable hands.
>>>I hope they can accept that not everyone in the USA is a bible
thumbing god worshiping religious fanatic<<<

really. ya hope that do ya? hmmmm...yeah, me too. and I feel confident
that they will do exactly that. the inside of my cheek is getting
a charlie horse from having my tongue rammed into it repeatedly here.

>>We need leaders who can lead the masses rather then leaders who only listen to their base supporters....<<<

well as one of the "masses" I can only say that would certainly be
an interesting change of pace after these...( little quick math..)
so, what year was it that Thomas Jefferson left office again? well,
that many years I guess :)

yes indeed, the "masses" will certainly be only too happy to 'yet again' have a voice
in how their country is run after HUDDLING lo these many years, uh...yearning to be free and so on.
 
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Hmm...wonder how her 17-year old daughter being pregnant is gonna play out with the Fundies...
 

LostMyMind

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I don't like Palin's views at all and I don't think she is qualified to be vice president. I'm not a huge fan of Obama either, but damn I hope he wins this election. Not McCain and Palin, hell no!!
 
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Hmm...wonder how her 17-year old daughter being pregnant is gonna play out with the Fundies...
it should pretty much be delightful fun for as long as they can milk it :)

much more fun than Cheneys daughter who as far as I can tell WAS
before the fact and has since pretty been minding her own beezxax all
the livelong day, even during the 'DEBATES' in 2004.

perhaps I project my own views on to those of the "MASSES" I don't
recall ever being "all shook up" about Cheneys daughter and she never
slammed me in any talking newshead interview sound bytes. so..
anyway....

this Sarah Palins 17 year old daughter being preggers is likely much more
tasty cannonfodder for the media types and the PUNDY's

poor kid...heh heh!! it's what ya get for havin famous parents. or parent, singular.
welcome to the real world kid :)

ya know, we've lost a lot of good comedians over the years,so if the political 'PUNDyS'
are the new source of entertainment, we should eat drink and make merry!!

indeed the 'fundies' ...I like that word. it's pejorative without being really
overtly offensive! if the FUNDIES not to be confused with nor necessarily
delineated from the PUNDY's) are smart, (sort of like if wishes were horses)....
they'd play it down, if fact.

I'm curious about the Obama folk. technically, they could have the
proverbial field day. but, that has not been their bag, to date, as
much as I have been aware at any rate... we shall see what we see
when we see it!
 
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I don't like Palin's views at all and I don't think she is qualified to be vice president. I'm not a huge fan of Obama either, but damn I hope he wins this election. Not McCain and Palin, hell no!!

with ya on that. I'd rather have the guy who does the voiceover for
jack in the box commercials than McIdiot and what's her face.
 
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Possibly (hopefully?) just another "bridge going to nowhere"...:smile:
"Bridge over the River NoWhere" good movie title..

"NoWhere Bridge" good Beatles spoof.

I think I missed something. specifically the signifigance of the
bridge reference. speaking of bridges...
 
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>>>There is something very unsettling about Palin (and McCain too). I can't quite express it. Last time I got that feeling was Bush and Cheney in 2000<<

can't quite put yer finger on it huh?

At a basic level, I can. They're pugs. I'm wary of pugs out of the gate. It saves me some time.

But it's more than that. You know how there are some people who just aren't very pleasant people but it's really no big deal? And then, there are those few people who are equally unpleasant but you sense that there's something even more disturbing below the surface. It's that kind of thing.
 
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At a basic level, I can. They're pugs. I'm wary of
pugs out of the gate. It saves me some time.

But it's more than that. You know how there are some people who just aren't
very pleasant people but it's really no big deal? And then, there are those few
people who are equally unpleasant but you sense that there's something even
more disturbing below the surface. It's that kind of thing.
>>>At a basic level, I can. They're pugs<<<

yes, as in short for repugnantkins. or, *shudder*...republicans.
since NewSpeak was adopted as the official language for the US..
oh, kinda sorta right around the time Ronald RayGun was running
for his second term in 1984..republican or any other word can
mean pretty much whatever the sayer wants it to mean at the
time, or more accurately and more incidiously, whatever the utterer
of whatever word wants the 'listeners' to think it means.

repugnantkin boiled down to its essence in the modern vernacular
means reagan, bush, clinton, who is also a member of the secret
handshake good old boy society along with Kerry in spite of calling
themselves dems for the purpose of perpetuating the myth of 2
parties and seperation of powers....then, Bush again for another
8 years etc..etc..

that's my own ignorant simplifiied impression of the load of cods
wallop we've been swallowing for 100 years or more.

>>>And then, there are those few people who are equally unpleasant but
you sense that there's something even more disturbing below the surface<<<

not all that far below the surface. you are referring to McCain/Palin.
you don't sound confused or in need of further pondering to me.
I'd say you pretty much nailed it. the repugnantkin agenda, a
most foul and unsavory state of affairs. I don't see a dimes worth
of difference in the alleged dems, ceptin' they act nicer, cuter,
etc...

Governer Palin lends a frightening credibilty to McCain, whom by the
way is certainly not the complete idiot we'd like to believe he is and
refer to him as. no way. but he's always been a loose cannon and
never a charismatic eloquent speaker. Palin was a great choice,
for McCain. and the repugnantkin agenda. I'm not so thrilled
about it my own self.

nor am I enamoured with Joe Biden. I can't stand the guy. the only
reason to vote for Obama IN MY opinion is ..he aint McCain and he
aint a repugnantkin.

for all the good it will do us, I hope he takes the election. it would
at least be a last grasp shot in the dark, "how could it POSSIBLY
be worse" kind of a vote and that is precisely why I will cast said
vote, for Lord Obama Most Merciful, as the Big FAT PumpkinHead
(Rush Limburgher) refers to him :)

you are uneasy about McCain and Palin because they are swine and
they make your skin crawl. no need to sugar coat it. not yet.
well, I'm PRETTY sure I can still say McCain is a twerp. it's not
against the law yet, is it? damn, I hope not.
 
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Random

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Governer Palin lends a frightening credibilty to McCain, whom by the
way is certainly not the complete idiot we'd like to believe he is and
refer to him as. no way.
I think that pretty much sums up my impression of the man. And you're right. It's not all that far below the surface.


nor am I enamoured with Joe Biden. I can't stand the guy. the only
reason to vote for Obama IN MY opinion is ..he aint McCain and he
aint a repugnantkin.
I don't really know what to think of Biden. I don't follow politics too closely. I knew who he was (generally) before he was selected but not much more than that. My impression of him is that I think he's probably basically a good man. But there's a little something below the surface there too. He's been in Washington far too long not to have been tainted to some degree.

for all the good it will do us, I hope he takes the election. it would
at least be a last grasp shot in the dark, "how could it POSSIBLY
be worse" kind of a vote and that is precisely why I will cast said
vote, for Lord Obama Most Merciful, as the Big FAT PumpkinHead
(Rush Limburgher) refers to him :)
Exactly. Obama isn't really the best we could have hoped for but he's the best we were going to get.

you are uneasy about McCain and Palin because they are swine and
they make your skin crawl. no need to sugar coat it.
I guess what I was saying was that yes. They're swine. But aren't most politicians? Some swine are worse than others. And that's what really worries me about these two.

I'm worried they might actually win. Back in 2000, I knew there was something about Bush and Cheney but I kind of ignored it because I figured they'd lose. Not that I loved Gore or anything. But as they say, lesser of two evils. When I heard they'd won, I knew right then we were in for a bumpy ride.

not yet.
well, I'm PRETTY sure I can still say McCain is a twerp. it's not
against the law yet, is it? damn, I hope not.
Yeah. Exactly.
 
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I think that pretty much sums up my impression of the man. And you're right. It's not all that far below the surface.




I don't really know what to think of Biden. I don't follow politics too closely. I knew who he was (generally) before he was selected but not much more than that. My impression of him is that I think he's probably basically a good man. But there's a little something below the surface there too. He's been in Washington far too long not to have been tainted to some degree.



Exactly. Obama isn't really the best we could have hoped for but he's the best we were going to get.



I guess what I was saying was that yes. They're swine. But aren't most politicians? Some swine are worse than others. And that's what really worries me about these two.

I'm worried they might actually win. Back in 2000, I knew there was something about Bush and Cheney but I kind of ignored it because I figured they'd lose. Not that I loved Gore or anything. But as they say, lesser of two evils. When I heard they'd won, I knew right then we were in for a bumpy ride.



Yeah. Exactly.
>>>Back in 2000, I knew there was something about Bush and Cheney but
I kind of ignored it because I figured they'd lose. Not that I loved Gore or anything. But as they say, lesser of two evils<<

maybe?? I assumed so as well.


>>When I heard they'd won, I knew right then we were in for a bumpy ride<<<

I'm not sure they 'won' in the strictest dictionary definiton of the
word 'WON' there was some considerable behind the scenes..uh..
fiddling about as it were before it was 'determined' (apparently)
that Bush/Cheny, uh..had in fact, won.

that is however, nitpicking on my part. and the point is, they did in
fact, take office. and a bumpy ride it is :)

sadly enough, twas ever thus. one crazy person or another will
always prevail by whatever means they shall use to prevail.

as for Biden, he may be an ok guy. obviously Obama has some
reason for picking him, Joe that is.

if memory serves, Joe Biden was at one time in another galaxy
far far away, somewhat more vocal about his gun control fascism
than he is lately.

so was Gore, to his detriment, in my opinion. the dems are learning :)
slowly but slowly."keep yer yaps shut about gun control. no sane person
wants to hear about it."

the very idea that the world or the country would be a safer place
if the citizens were not allowed to bear arms is so patently absurd
that it literally does not bear debate, or even contemplation.

anyway, the Supreme Court recently made an unprecedented ruling
in FAVOR of the constitution. tis a strange strange and incongruous
world we live in, brother random!
 
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>>>Re: McCain chooses Sarah Palin for VP

Possibly (hopefully?) just another "bridge going to nowhere"...
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oh, THAT bridge to nowhere.... I's a little slow on the uptake there.
no, I had no idea. indeed, there is only so much swill any one person
can absorb in a given lifespan. I confess total ignorance on this one.

interesting. see? I don't know whether to pay MORE or LESS attention
to the "news" and to the shenanigans of the various and sundry swine
politicians/movers/shakers in this country let alone the entire world.

but thanks for the eye opener! I really didn't know what you meant.
there was one little tasty morsel of comedy in the article! it's almost
like when John Cleese would say "and now for something..completely
different" on the Monty Pythons Flying Circus Brit TV show.

the journalist in this instance used a standard catch all 'phrase'
which I interpret as humor, though I could be totally wrong...
THE journalist wrote...(ahem) "Palin's spokeswoman in Alaska was
not immediately available to comment"

no fooling :)

gee, I wonder why that might be!
 

Random

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Well, I'm not so sure they won either. But it was apparent from the moment the were declared the winners that it was basically a lost cause to grumble about it.

I think Obama didn't really have much choice. He was pretty much badgered into picking somebody who'd been around for a while. I think he had to make a "safe" choice. Except I don't know how safe he is because I kind of get the impression a lot of folks are lukewarm on him.

And yeah. The gun control thing always has been wacky. I guess if Biden has been active in that area in the past, his views probably haven't changed much. The real hardcore gun grabbers are just as crazy as those on the far right.
 
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Well, I'm not so sure they won either. But it was apparent from the moment the were declared the winners that it was basically a lost cause to grumble about it.

I think Obama didn't really have much choice. He was pretty much badgered into picking somebody who'd been around for a while. I think he had to make a "safe" choice. Except I don't know how safe he is because I kind of get the impression a lot of folks are lukewarm on him.

And yeah. The gun control thing always has been wacky. I guess if Biden has been active in that area in the past, his views probably haven't changed much. The real hardcore gun grabbers are just as crazy as those on the far right.

>>>The real hardcore gun grabbers are just as crazy as those on the far right<<<

can't argue with that. there's a lot of nitwits who are also 2nd amendment
advocate. some of them (no names..ok Ted Nugent) make a bad
case for 2nd amendment advocacy. oh well, nuthin I can
do about it. it's like the whole world wants to be on the jerry springer
show or something. nutjobs abound...
 
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