Might as well disappear

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  1. Black Beauty

    Black Beauty Well-Known Member

    Cool thread title aye? LOL.

    But yeah, seriously. I came across this and it's helped explain a lot about how things have turned out in my life. The thing is, what's the point of knowing it all now after the fact? Still, thought it was worth sharing for others here who are suffering from rejection so as to not make the same mistakes in the future:

    I wasn't a sexist before I understood women. There was a time when I was blissfully ignorant. I grew up watching Disney cartoons, I believed in romance and "true love conquers all" etc. I wanted to find a woman who could be my equal, my partner. I believed in finding that one true love and being committed to each other forever. You know, like in the marriage vows, "for better or for worse, through sickness and in health, for richer or for poorer" etc. And I believed that women basically wanted the same thing. Now I understand that this was only possible when society was structured to enforce it. Now that women are "liberated" (and thus at the mercy of their own emotions and baser instincts) this is mostly no longer possible in today's society. Victorian society, or many Arab societies, are examples of how society used to be structured to keep women as faithful as possible.

    I'd like to point out that I am not a misogynist...I love women. But I AM a sexist, in the sense that I believe women are vastly different than men and, according to the standards that men hold for other men, women are inferior as well.

    I must be a bitter loser, right? In fact, I enjoy more success with women than most of the men in this city. I have slept with over 200 women in my life. I am sleeping with 5 different women right now. They are all normal, healthy, well-adjusted, good-looking (8+ on the looks scale) professional women. (At least as normal and healthy and well-adjusted as women can be - most women have issues.) But that's not all. I can go out any night of the week and pick up a woman. I can pick her up in front of all her friends (with 80% efficiency for each approach.) Women will slip me their phone number when their boyfriend is in the bathroom. I can talk to women on the street or in the grocery store and within 30 minutes, I can usually have sex with them right there in my car or get them back to my place. If I have to settle for a phone number, and I meet her on another day, assuming she doesn't flake, I WILL fuck her that next day.

    Let me point out right now that my Modus Operandi doesn't change in the slightest if she single or if she has a boyfriend or husband. I just do my normal routine and I fuck her. Sometimes she brings up the boyfriend so she won't feel guilty when I fuck her because now it's "my fault." Sometimes she hides it from me until after I've fucked her, then she admits it. I can't tell you how many times I've been laying next to some chick, all sweaty cause I just finished busting a nut all over her face or in her mouth or on her back, and suddenly her phone rings and she's on the phone with her man, giving him some bullshit story. This is with NO GUILT WHATSOEVER!!! The sweetest most innocent girls you ever laid eyes on, will cheat at the drop of a HAT. The one thing that most men value most - loyalty - is just not there with women. Women don't think in terms of honor, women don't say "word is bond;" women are basically emotionally driven. If they feel it, they do it, period. Then they rationalize it to themselves later. Nothing is more meaningful, or compelling, to a woman than (1) the way she feels and (2) learning more about her own inner self and having emotional realizations. That's why women love astrology, chick flicks, soap operas, stupid Cosmo quizes that supposedly reveal info about yourself, etc.

    I must be really good looking, right? NOPE. My looks are marginal; I'm maybe a 7. I don't work out (though I'm not fat or anything.) In fact I didn't have any success with women until I was in my early 20's. That's when I decided to go out a lot and start trying to get laid... I was willing to face rejection a thousand times a night, and do it over and over, trying everything, until I got it right. I had to completely set my ego aside. I didn't get laid at all for the first few months. Then every now and then. Then pretty often. Then downright consistently! I'm in my early 30's now and I am basically a sexual god. I wouldn't have even believed this were possible when I was in high school. The ONLY factor that determined whether a woman would cheat was my own skill level. When my skills were poor, women shit all over me. (Everyone knows how women think they have license to be rude bitches in social situations... in fact I understand and appreciate that behavior now.) But once my skills got good, I could fuck just about anyone's wife or girlfriend. And many times I didn't know they had a man until after I fucked them.

    Look, I'm not saying that men are perfect, or whatever. Far from it. I'm just saying, I've spent a lot of my time studying women and interacting with them, and I know how they are. In fact, sometimes I hate knowing it. Sometimes I wish I had taken the blue pill, and never went down the rabbit hole, because now there's really no going back. I didn't want to believe these things... but how could I ever get married now? How could I ever be the chump who pays for everything and blissfully goes through life not worrying about his woman because he trusts her? Look, would you leave your dog alone with a steak? You can't hate the dog for doing what's in its nature. You can't trust a dog, BUT you can trust a dog to BE a dog. Some men are disloyal... but I could *never* trust a woman to be loyal. Some men are bad presidents...but I could *never* vote for a woman to be president. I can rarely expect a woman to regard her own promises as more important and compelling to her than the emotions she feels in the moment. She will rationalize it to herself later.

    Here's an interesting fact. Did you know that the median 22 year old woman has TWICE as much sex as the median 22 year old man? You might ask, how is that possible? If a woman's having sex, doesn't that mean a man is having sex at the same time? And thus, shouldn't men be having just as much sex as women? NO...because most men hardly get laid, or if they do, it's because they "got lucky." But a small group of men get laid ALL THE TIME, and fuck LOTS AND LOTS of women! It's evolution at work. Women follow their emotions, and that leads them to sleep with men like me (who know how to control female emotions.) Women want the top man...so the top man fucks lots of women. That's right - the sexual revolution, feminism, etc has resulted in a return to harems. Women, at the mercy of their own emotions, are volunteering for the modern-day equivalent of harems. Lucky for me!! Heh.

    You might say, "But...but...I'm so nice! I'm a nice guy!" Guess what? That's like a fat chick saying, "But I'm so smart!" As if those things have anything in the world to do with sexual attraction!

    I'm going to give some tips here for the poor sucker guys who are posting online trying to get laid and who are spending hundreds / thousands of dollars on all those *****s out there without getting any play. (You bitches know exactly what you're doing, and I'm on to your game!)

    Don't be sexually judgemental in any way. A woman's worst fear is to be perceived as a slut. She will suck your toes and take it in the ass if she thinks you don't view her poorly for it (and she knows her friends won't find out.)

    Don't get angry at her. Women know they have emotional outbursts and they need to trust that you can handle that. It's ok (and necessary) to occasionally put your foot down...just make sure she knows you are fully in control of yourself.

    Don't let her manipulate you or control you in any way. She will immediately lose all respect for you. Always be leading. It's just like dancing - women hate a man who can't lead.
    When first approaching a woman or a group, they tend to get a feeling like this is just your little scheme to get close to them, when you really just want something from them - like sex. (And they're right.) It's important to structure your body language and conversation so that they honestly don't believe you want something from them. They should feel like you are about to leave at any second.

    DON'T TRY TO IMPRESS HER IN ANY WAY. Don't show off. Don't talk about accomplishments or possessions. As soon as she perceives that you are trying to prove yourself to her, she loses all interest.

    Don't ignore her friends. A woman values her friend's opinions more than just about anything else in the world. Nothing matters to her more than what other women are thinking. Give her friends lots of attention and get everyone laughing. If one woman is feeling different than the others, she will drag them away. They will follow like a flock of pigeons. Society is the book of women. (Notice that men do NOT behave this way! Women are very different!)

    To get a woman attracted / emotionally vulnerable, give her lots of emotions and feelings. Don't just make her feel good. Make her feel good, and angry, and sad, and connected, and astonished, and intrigued, etc. Make her laugh. Tease her. Tell stories about your sick puppy. Tell her why things would never work out between the two of you. Call her a dork. If she gets heated up, she will start touching you...playfully push her away. If she calls you a jerk and punches your arm, you are doing it right. If she gives you that "I can't believe you just said that" look, do NOT back down, do not say "Oh I'm just kidding" or anything like that.

    As she gets more emotional, she will try to ruin things by throwing in logic. She will ask you if you are a player, or if you say this to all the girls, or whatever. The trick is this: Don't take it seriously by giving it some logical answer! That's right...women lose interest if you take them seriously!!! It's crazy but that's how they behave. Just blow it off or misinterpret what she's saying as though she is coming on to you. If you fail these tests, she will be gone so fast your head will spin.

    She will start asking you lots of questions. This is what chicks do when they suddenly find themselves attracted to a man they know nothing about. This is your chance to open up a little and also find out more about her and build a deeper connection. You have to do this, or she will flake later (even if you've kissed her!) Women are the worst flakes in the world! Don't make it too easy for her, make her work for it a bit. Then talk about connections and childhood memories and things you have in common, etc. She needs to feel that this is genuine. This is usually the time when I throw in a few fake vulnerabilities, like pretending I'm shy or insecure about something. I know it's fucked up but women need to see that there are at least a few small holes where they can sink their hooks in you. They get uneasy if you are too perfect.

    Make sure she gets the feeling that you have standards and that you are judging her based on them. Ask her questions that show her you are checking her out to see if she is up to snuff. Women don't like to feel like you are with them only because you can't do any better. They prefer to feel like you have high standards; you can get any chick you want, but you chose HER because she is SOOOO special and SOOOO different from all the others. Yeah, I know.

    Move her to different locations. Take her next door for a drink. Take her across the street to check out some art. The more locations the better.
    Take responsibility for every escalation. A woman will do just about anything as long as she doesn't have to feel like it was "her fault." Make it YOUR fault. Make it "just happen." She will rationalize it to herself later using the same bullshit generator that women use to flake out on dates at the last minute. Don't get her horny until you get her isolated. Believe me, emotional is better than horny.

    Keep the woman always swinging somewhere between validation and rejection. If she feels rejected, she drops out or gets REALLY MAD. And if she feels too validated, she will ditch you in a heartbeat. So push her away (emotionally) and then pull her back in.

    BELIEVE YOUR OWN BULLSHIT. Chicks do not look at your excuses and try to see if they are bullshit or not... because that is the logical thing to do, and chicks are not logical. Rather, what they do is see if YOU seem to believe your own bullshit when you say it. If you look like you do, then chances are, they will believe it too. So the key is to believe your own bullshit, and other aspects about yourself that you want the chick to believe about you too (alpha male..whatever)... because your own self beliefs for some reason will automatically 'impart' to the chick!
    One more thing...many guys make the mistake of listening to female romantic advice. Don't listen to them, THEY DON'T KNOW WTF THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT, and they WILL steer you wrong. They will tell you what they

    THINK they want, instead of what they actually RESPOND to. And furthermore, a large part of the female sexual experience IS the inability to admit these things BECAUSE they derive sexual pleasure from putting up resistance and being overwhelmed.

    If you do things this way, after a few months practice you WILL get laid like a rock star. The guys who get laid are the ones who know what they are doing, because they have practiced on lots of women. Ironically, women are most attracted to the men who are most likely to fuck them and then dump them on their ass - because those are precisely the men who have so many other options because they practice on lots of women. That's why you always hear women bitching about how men are assholes that only want to fuck them and dump them - because those are the men that they gravitate to.

    Women tend to wise up when they get towards their 30s, and they start looking for a nice wimpy beta male to settle down with and pay for all their shit. As they get older, they will get more and more desperate to find this guy. Once they do, they will cheat on him with an exciting fun guy like me. (But who wants to fuck some old chick in her 30's? That's what beta males are for! Heh)

    Hey, don't blame me - I didn't make things the way they are. I was just a guy who wanted to get laid. And I do.

    Women tend to wise up when they get towards their 30s, and they start looking for a nice wimpy beta male to settle down with and pay for all their shit. As they get older, they will get more and more desperate to find this guy. Once they do, they will cheat on him with an exciting fun guy like me. (But who wants to fuck some old chick in her 30's? That's what beta males are for! Heh)

    Hey, don't blame me - I didn't make things the way they are. I was just a guy who wanted to get laid. And I do.
     
  2. bhawk

    bhawk Well-Known Member

    Try sleeping with my ex! i can guarantee you'd fall flat on your face with that one!
     
  3. mulberrypie

    mulberrypie Well-Known Member

    not bad. there were a few things that were off the mark for me personally, but it seems to be working for you so that's cool
     
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  4. bhawk

    bhawk Well-Known Member

    One more point, you state that you shouldnt try to prove yourself as this will end in rejection, yet your post seems like a self validation and trying to prove yourself.
    If it wasnt then there would be no need to shout about your achievements.... there are people on this forum that are just as sexually active yet feel no need to promote it on here
     
  5. thedeafmusician

    thedeafmusician Staff Alumni

    Okay, first off, I have read this post several times since it has been made, however, I am somewhat dubious towards your intentions in creating this thread. It seems that there is part of you wishing to prove yourself as a dominant alpha-male, part of you wanting everyone else on this forum to know that, and part of you seeming to wish to pass on your, erm, expertise, to other males of the forum.

    Then again, you seem somewhat contradictory, because you stated in your post that one should not try to prove himself, as this will ultimately end in rejection, however the fact that you posted this does the opposite, in that you are effectively 'proving' yourself to us, especially by making sweeping statements such as 'I have slept with over 200 women in my life.' and 'I am sleeping with 5 different women right now', and by claiming it to be 'success' with women. I guess that it depends on what you define 'success' to be.

    I am not going to deny that each person is entitled to his or her own opinion, and if this is yours, then kudos to you. I agree that males and females are vastly different from each other, but I also believe that males and females have a lot in common. I do NOT believe that females are inferior to males, nor do I believe that males are inferior to females.

    The first thing that comes into my mind when I write this is that attitudes like yours are precisely why I have next to no trust when it comes to guys, when it comes to a romantic sense. Then again, it could be simply a by-product of growing up in an abusive household, how am I to know? It seems as if you have crafted your own 'handbook' for picking up girls, for want of a better word, or your own set of instructions.

    The formal definition of 'misogynist' is 'one who hates women'. 'Hate' is a very strong word, and it appears that you do not hate women, so I will grant you that. However, in your next sentence you move on to state that you do love women. What I am wondering is how you could claim to 'love' someone if you view him or her to be inferior and not your equal. [One could argue that you could compare it to perhaps, loving your pet cat or dog, in that you love them but you are the pet owner and they are the pet, but drawing analogies like that already has vastly negative connotations and is simply not the same.]

    'Love' as a word can be classified as either a verb or a noun. I shall assume in this context that you mean 'love' in the form of a verb. Courtesy of Google, when 'love' is used as a verb, it has two meanings: 'to feel a deep romantic or sexual attachment to', or 'like very much, find pleasure in,' and this brings me to one of the several points that you make, that I take issue with:

    The flat, bland tone of this sentence, and the majority of what you have written before that implies that no, you do not 'love' women but you instead would rather enjoy empty and emotionless sex. Although sex can be made equivalent to love-making, they are not always the same thing, especially because in this context you imply that there is little, if any, emotional attachment at all. To me, this is further confirmed as I continue to read your post, as you then move on from sounding bland to being rather flippant, which is just as bad, if not worse.

    I do not claim to 'know how [women] are,' even though I am one. On a similar token, I also do not claim to know how men are, either, although like you, I have spent a vast majority of time studying people. It is rash, foolish, and arrogant to assume that you know the every single personality trait pertaining to a certain gender. Why is this so? It is estimated that in 2009 the population of the world was 6.775 billion, according to the World Bank. Let's just round it up to 7 billion, and assume that half of this 7 billion are male and the other half are female. This means that there are about 3.5 billion female people in the world. Could you really claim to know how every single one of these 3.5 billion women are? That is a LOT of people, and there are a LOT of variables involved.

    Your, er, methods, if they work for you, then kudos to you. Personally, I have been chased by too many guys for my liking, and the only ones I were ever attracted towards for more than fleeting moments are the ones that I have known for a substantial amount of time. Hey, maybe I am a prude, but whatever. -shrug-

    Furthermore, the fact that you assess one's looks on a scale of one to ten implies that you are superficial and shallow. Yes, I believe this even if you asses your own looks on a scale of one to ten. You claim that these women that you have sex with have no guilt whatsoever about cheating on their partner. On the same token, I find it interesting that you also seem to harbour little, if any, guilt at all that you are simply using these women to get what you want. How does this make you any better than they are? Okay, fine, you're not in a relationship and they are, but who are you to judge? And how can you possibly claim to know that they are not guilty for it afterwards, once you are gone? From what I have read you only get to know these women for relatively short amounts of time.

    Oh yes, a final thing: I am not going to touch on your statement regarding Victorian and Arab societies that you made towards the beginning of your post because if I write on this, my post would become much too long. You claim that women are, and I quote 'liberated'. I beg to differ: there is still inequality in the world that we live in. Why do I say this? The views that you have stated above more than prove this to me. As a general statement, women wanted to be liberated in the first place because of the fact that they were viewed to be inequal to men. I can personally vouch that this still exists, in many cultures today. You might argue that liberation and inequality are two different things, and well, that is true. Liberation means freedom from limits on thoughts or behaviour, and inequality means a state of being uneven.

    However, in saying that, currently society's underlying beliefs still imply that women and men are unequal. You might disagree with me but you do not have to look very far to see the point I am trying to make here. Glass ceilings still exist in our society today. Because of this, it follows on that no, women are not 'liberated' as you have so eloquently stated; women are still not free from the restraints that have been placed on them by society.

    Perhaps it is because of this, some feel that it is better to let themselves be 'used'.

    This was longer than I intended, however seeing as you went to such an effort to write such a long post to start with, I can only assume that you would extend the courtesy to me, to read and consider my reply.
     
  6. k2hsharpe

    k2hsharpe Antiquities Friend

    @black beauty ....
    cool thread title? LOL ??
    On the suicide forum? My first impression? That it would take a right one handed typist to think that funny (i hesitate to use the wank word here so early in our relationship). Cool thread title, nay! But that's just my personal opinion which seems to be shared by no one else here ...
    * shrugs *

    You claim to have come across this and found it to have somehow validated you as victim? A seemingly tragic state negated somewhat by the smug contempt that permeates the posting. And i have to wonder (cos it isn't really clear) - am i reading the work of a single one handed typist or a pair. I'm afraid the responses so far seem to assume you are sole author. Is this the case? I suspect so, though this would make your opening words a tad disingenuous would it not?

    and sadly for me - it's all downhill from here. I can only say ... it’s been a very long time since i read such concentrated self indulgent self pleasuring as your original post. I’m actually lost for words (a novel experience for me), other than to say ... i like women very much and tire very quickly of the company of people such as you, and postings such as yours.

    wanders off humming
    i’m so pretty oh so pretty
    i’m so pretty and witty and ....
    and...
    errrrrm, and ....
    bugger! i need some industrial strength gingko
    * head shake *
     
  7. peacelovingguy

    peacelovingguy Well-Known Member

    You can have sex with almost any woman in 30 minutes?

    They got to be easy. Maybe sleazy.

    And 8 professional ladies on the go?

    To be honest - I thought I wrote a lot - and have been called sexist a few times - but I could not take it seriously. It sounds like one of those 'motivational' get any woman to bed, lectures. I just got lost myself.

    Sleeping with 200 woman is easy. Go onto a website which deals with sexual liasons for the night only - tons of them out there - upload your photo.

    I know people who are there every weekend regular with some woman who has uploaded her photo and sent a request to basically meet and promptly ball each other.

    You get rated - and so get a rep. Everything is in the open - your sexual organs - sized, maybe displayed. I guess a handsome man, with a big you know what, rated ten out of ten by 34 ladies, might just get requests every day and be able to have 200 woman in a year if he wants.

    But its all superficial stuff really. I'd sooner go the pub and take my chances in real life!

    But if you end up with 200 woman - you will be wearing a condom ALL the time. In fact if I was going to sleep with a women who had slept with 200 men - I'd not even kiss her. I mean on a basic hygiene level I'm funny that way. Maybe she had a date early on if you know what I mean.

    Each to their own though - maybe I'll try to read all the article tomorrow - but I doubt with all sincerity that I'll be getting laid 30 mins after meeting anyone apart from a hooker of course!

    Why the big rush anyhow?

    Cheers!

    PS - I don't know why this is on a suicide forum - I mean, motivation sure - but I'd be interested in what some woman actually think!

    If they say it works - then sure I'll study it, lol.
     
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