My doctor told me in 6 months, I can drink socially again.

Discussion in 'Self Harm & Substance Abuse' started by I'm_trying, Nov 22, 2011.

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  1. I'm_trying

    I'm_trying Active Member

    My mother has admitted I can drink socially again too. So I don't understand why drinking everyday is so bad and makes me an alcoholic or have a problem when I am very well allowed to drink in the future. I mean I'm legal and it may be a depressant but I will continue to drink.

    Just like a nice cold pop or water is refreshing everyday, a nice cold beer or rum and ginger drink everyday is just as refreshing. I'm not hurting anyone and I even have a job. Yet everyone seems to think I have a problem.
     
  2. total eclipse

    total eclipse SF Friend Staff Alumni

    You have a problem if the drink makes you unstable interferes with your medication hun a social drink here and there okay but not every day you are using it then as a coping skill. not a good thing to do
     
  3. Kaos General

    Kaos General Well-Known Member

    Ok, if you think you havent got a drink problem, dont drink for 48 hours. If you cannot do it or you start shaking in anyway then you have a drink problem.

    Just so you know, a nice cold pop or water wont give you jaundice, liver cirrhosis or liver cancer. Trust me, those things await you if you drink every day and believe me, its the single most painful experience you can ever begin to imagine.
     
  4. darcy1

    darcy1 Well-Known Member

    i drank for 20 years. almost every day.
    thousands of bottles of beer. then it wasn't enough...swithed to vodka.
    hundreds and hundreds of 1 litre bottles of vodka every day for 3 years.
    also smoked thousands of cigarettes and pounds and pounds of marajuana.
    it destroyed me. my brain isn't the same.
    i know cancer is comming for me. just don't know when or where or how.
    i quit all of it, fell back into it, quit again fell back into it.
    quit again and didn't go back to it but fell into benzodiazapine addiction.
    i don't get more than 2 hours of sleep a day and every dream haunts me with my drug and alcohol use and dreams of cancer and being chased by dark figures.
    if not that then they are reminding me of every little or big mistake i have made in life. it is a not stop living hell.
    comming off benzos will lead me back into a place darker than i can ever imagine. way darker than i am in now and i never imagined it would be as dark as it is now.

    do yourself a favour and stay away from alcohol. it is poison. it will destroy you. if not now. it will later.
     
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  5. I'm_trying

    I'm_trying Active Member

    I did when I detoxed at a psych ward.
     
  6. Kaos General

    Kaos General Well-Known Member

    Then you have a drink problem. You can try and justify it to yourself as much as you want, but their are wiser people on here who have been around the block a few thousand times. I've been in your shoes but for me it was heroin crack and alcohol. I tried to justify it to myself for 10 years that i never had a problem, it was everyone else who has a problem.

    Goto a AA or NA meeting. Dont talk, just listen to people. I guarantee it will open your eyes up to a lot of things.
     
  7. I'm_trying

    I'm_trying Active Member

    My fathers an alcoholic and my brother was a meth (plus everything else) addict. I know an addict when I see them.
     
  8. darcy1

    darcy1 Well-Known Member

    you know an addict when you see one...when you look at yourself do you see an addict?
     
  9. In a Lonely Place

    In a Lonely Place Well-Known Member

    I see an addict in most people whether it be sex,drugs,alcohol,money,power,surgery,porn,food,religion its the human condition. We are weak as a species,discontent. It suggests that the way we've evolved and built our societies does not fulfil us and bring real happiness. I envy animals only needing to satisfy their primitive needs to survive,our world is full of bullshit and some kind desire to destroy ourselves.
     
  10. I'm_trying

    I'm_trying Active Member

    No, because I'm not an addict.
     
  11. darcy1

    darcy1 Well-Known Member

    as long as you are comfortable and sure of that. and you believe in yourself. that's enough for me.

    i remember after 17 years of drug and alcohol abuse i went to AA and got sober for the first time ever, pot and cigarrets too. i felt really good. paid off the 10 thousand dollars in dept i had racked up while using. kept going to meetings. feeling like i knew more than the people there. like they were addicts and i wasn't. i decided to just go for my 1 year of sobriety to prove i could do it and i did. had a big 1 year birthday party at a meeting.

    then i stopped going to meetings. and then one time after comming home from the mall i stopped at a bar and decided to have a beer since i knew i could control it cause i wasn't an addict like they all were...i just liked to have a beer once in a while. funny thing happened. when they started to pour the beer from the draft...the keg was empty...she had to go and change the hook up. at the time i didn't realize but it was a sign from the universe to get up and walk away...but i didn't. i had 2 beers. soon i was drinking socially again...then back to smoking pot socially...then back to doing it by myself.

    quit everything again and my brain went crazy... each time you quit drinking and drugs...the withdrawl gets worse.

    trusted my doctor when they gave me anti anxiety meds to help but ended up getting hooked on them and am now in a living hell...

    and i see what mark is saying too. even when i wasn't drinking i was just trading my drug addictions for other addictions...like food, coca cola (10 teaspoons of sugar in each can), chocolate and other things i am ashamed of.

    now every night i have nightmears about my past and all my addictions (in my 2 hours of sleep if i am lucky to get 2 hours) the dreams are relentless and non stop...reminding me of my past and that i am an addict no matter what it is...reminding every night of how much i smoked and drank...trying to escape from hospitals...running into people in my dreams with cancer...

    i wish i never picked up that first drink or smoked that first joint or cigarette. but i can't change the past...and what ever controls my dreams haunts me about it every night. i am so filled with self hatred...and waiting for what ever disease is going to come for me and wondering when. it's like having a gun pointed at you all the time...you know they are going to shoot...but you just don't know when...so you live in fear.

    i just share this with love. not judgement.

    only you know yourself and only you know if you are an addict. i don't....but i can say i was in your shoes at one time and wish i made a different choice.

    know alcohol. maybe research it on wikapedia..."long term effects of alcohol", "kindling" which is a phenomenon of the withdrawl being worse and worse each tme you stop. know how it effects your brain...and how many different kind of cancers it causes.

    i wish someone told me before i got into this mess...

    again...i don't say this out of judgment on you...just telling you what a nightmear it made my life.

    do what you know is best for you. only you know.
     
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  12. I'm_trying

    I'm_trying Active Member

    If your doctor says you can drink socially in the future that means you aren't prone to addiction nor are you an addict. My dad has been an alcoholic for thirty + years and has never had any complications. I'm 20 years old and am being told I can't drink everyday? Yeah well I'm going to continue. And if I try hard drugs then so be it. One of my brothers did hard drugs for a couple years too. Yet the two of them have never really gotten help.

    I've been drinking for a year, not 30 or 40 years. I'm not an addict. I've seen an addict.
     
  13. OhneDich

    OhneDich Well-Known Member

    Have you ever taken the "CAGE" questionary?

    1 - Have you ever felt you should cut down on your drinking?
    2 - Have people annoyed you by criticising your drinking?
    3 - Have you ever felt bad or guilty about your drinking?
    4 - Have you ever had a drink first thing in the morning to steady your nerves or get rid of a hangover (eye-opener)?

    two answers "yes" means you have an alcohol abuse... only one "yes" is a sign that you might have an abuse.

    There's another questionary as well, called AUDIT. According to some studies, it's the best nowadays to measure alcohol abuse... you can find it here: http://www.health.nt.gov.au/library...D=1&str_title=Alcohol Screen (AUDIT) Tool.pdf

    I hope it helps, not only to you, but to someone else, if you ever need to help them :)

    Take care!!
     
  14. OhneDich

    OhneDich Well-Known Member

    Only reminding that abuse is different from addiction... both are bad, but abuse doesn't give you abstinence syndrome!
     
  15. darcy1

    darcy1 Well-Known Member

    as long as you trust your doctor and believe him thats all you need.

    i wish you well on your journey.
    maybe you are right.
    only you yourself can find out.
    only you can take the journey.

    i really hope you don't end up like me and all the other alcoholics out there who destroyed thier own lives.

    don't get me wrong...it wasn't all hell. for many years it was great and fun. i had friends and was having an awesome time. i made tons of music, kept a job...i didn't realize at that time that i would end up where i am right now.

    when my life fell apart and the nightmears started...something weird started to happen. all the stuff i thought was great in my past...the best moments and the right decisions i made...my consciousness started to rewrite my history...and show me the self destruction i had created. everything i thought was the best decision at the time ended up being the worst thing i ever did and lead me farther into darkness.

    again i am not judging you.
    just sharing.
    i wish i had someone like me tell me how it would end up...back when i started.
    i wish i stayed in AA.
    now i am too ashamed to even show my face at a meeting.
    i am embarassed to run into anyone i knew in my past...

    i wish you the best of luck.
     
  16. Kaos General

    Kaos General Well-Known Member

    Yeah, so can i. It means little though because the one person who you cant see as an addict is yourself. Admitting you are one is the hardest things you can do. So your seeing a doctor, that means absoloutely nothing unless that doctor specialises in alcohol and drug addictions. Im sorry but from what ive seen from what youve said so far, your in denial.
     
  17. I'm_trying

    I'm_trying Active Member

    Alright then I abuse alcohol. But thats okay. Because that still means I can stop when I want. I'm not an alcoholic.
     
  18. Kaos General

    Kaos General Well-Known Member

    So in your opinion, what constitutes an alcoholic?
     
  19. I'm_trying

    I'm_trying Active Member


    Someone who has been drinking for a number of years and if were to stop they would experience severe withdrawal such as tremors and hallucinations. They would be strongly recommended to never drink again and would need to attend meetings everyday of the rest of their life. They affect family and friends. Some are high functioning which are the worst kind because they are hidden from society and only hurt those close but still have all of the above characteristics.

    If I were one I would be told to never drink again.
     
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