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My mom did it.....please read

Discussion in 'Grief and Bereavement' started by mjpisat, Feb 2, 2009.

  1. mjpisat

    mjpisat New Member

    I just got back from attending to everything and am back with my wife and children. I am 31 years old and my mother was one of my best friends. About 18 months ago my mother started to suffer from menopause. I had always just thought women go through a phase in life where their hormones are out of whack and after time it passes. She talked of hot flashes, not being able to sleep etc. Well, about three months ago she started with a bad case of anxiety. After anxiety came depression. One day she came down for work and had taken a bottle of sleeping pills. She spent some time in a hospital, but was sent home after about a week. My dad took her to see a few different therapists and a psychiatrist. They all had different opinions and she was put on different medications. Nothing seemed to really work. My dad has been retired for about 7-8 months now so he was there to help every which way he could. He never left her alone so she wouldn't harm herself. After some time passed my mom started to feel better and told him that in order for her to get better, he needed to trust her again. Back on December 6th he left for an hour to have lunch with a friend. He came back and found her in the passenger seat of her car holding a bible with the car running in the garage. He found her in time, she came to, but fought with him just to let her go. So, back to the hospital she went. After about another two weeks, she was home. This time she was determined to get help. She promised my dad and other people that she wouldn't do it again.

    Not to get side tracked, but I'll fill in where I was during this. I live three hours away. My wife was due with our daughter on December 31. The last thing my mom wanted to do was worry me with this. My dad filled me in and told me about the first attempt with the pills, but didn't tell me about the second attempt until after my daughter was born. He told me on January 1st about the second attempt, but I couldn't let my mom know that he told me. The past three months my mom and I spoke. Not nearly as much as we used to, but we spoke. I would try to call her, she wouldn't call back. When I did talk to her, she was just very blah. I have been through anxiety and realized that it was just something that passed. I think that all of these changes in her body with menopause just magnified everything though which was something I didn't have to deal with.

    Ok, back on track. I spoke to my mom on Dec. 24th when my daughter was born and she sounded great. This was three weeks after her second attempt. She really sounded a lot more like the woman I knew. On January 12th we had a really good conversation. She told me that she realized this was going to take time and that she will be down to see her new grand daughter as soon as she felt better. I thought, wow, she finally gets it. It's just a phase and it will pass. I felt great after the conversation. It seemed like she had really turned a corner and was on her way. I spoke to her one more time on January 18 or what ever day the Eagles played the Cardinals for the NFC championship. She was hanging with the family watching football which she hadn't done much of.

    I'll just touch on that for a second. My mom has always been a family/people person. Very social and outgoing. She was the mom that my friends and sister's friends thought of as a friend and somebody that they could talk to. In the past three months she lost all interest in everything. She used to watch my niece three days a week and didn't want to be bothered with her.

    Ok, last Friday my dad called me. We talked at about 2:30. He was on his way home from snowboarding. He called me to tell me how great my mom was doing. They went to my aunt's work the day before to interview for a new part time job. My dad took her out that night to buy a ton of new clothes to get ready in case she took the job. He said she was excited to be able to work with her sister. I was surprised he was snowboarding and left her alone. He said that mom was supposed to go with my sister to a friend's house to watch her daughter. Besides that, she told him that they couldn't keep living how they were and he needed to trust her so she feel good again. I tried to call my mom after we talked, but it went straight to voicemail, which wasn't strange these days.

    At about 6 pm my dad called to tell me that he came home and found her dead. She did it again in the garage with the car, this time she wasn't inside of it. My mom left a message with my sister at 8 am that she wasn't going to be able to make it becasue of a bad stomach. The bad stomach wasn't that out of the ordinary either.

    This is just such a shock because there has been no history of mental illness. She never was on meds, never had to see a therapist. She was as normal as anybody. There were no problems in her life. In fact, everything was how she wanted it. One thing about the menopause though is that her estrogen levels were all screwed up. I guess sort of a chemical imbalance. Everybody who I spoke to was very surprised. My aunt and uncle were with her on Thursday and said she was like the Helen they knew. My dad who has been there through everything said she was really on her way. My friend who still lives in NJ called my mom on Thursday. He had no idea that she was sick or the suicide attempts, but just decided to call her that night. He said she sounded normal. She told him about the new job etc. When she was feeling down before she coulnd't even hide it. I wasn't there and could tell it in her voice. When I talked to her last week, she sounded good.

    It's so hard to explain without knowing her, but the eulogy I will post at the end sums it up. She was the most selfless person I knew. Always did for others. Never asked anything in return. She was all about her family. Me and my sister, our kids, nieces and nephews. Even my sister's friends kids. She was very honest, told you how it was. I went through a bout of anxiety last year and my mom took time off work to come down and help me out for a week.

    It may sound strange, but I feel like my mom has been gone for a while. I had a conversation with her two weeks ago and she sounded good. The best she's sounded in three months. Before that, she was just very blah. Wouldn't laugh, didn't have much to say. I really think all of the hormonal changes with menopause took over and left her incapable of being able to deal with things that she'd usually be able to deal with.

    My friends and friends of the family who haven't been around the past three months and didn't know what was going on just don't believe it. She is the last person you would think would do this.

    I walked around her house the other day. There are so many pictures of all the children in her life. Every drawer has photo albums of kids, family, good times. Just all great memories. If that wasn't enough to keep her from doing this, if the thought of not being able to see my daughter Gabrielle or my niece grow up, not being able to lay her eyes on her new grand daughter (my new born) wasn't enough, leaving all that she loved and cared about behind wasn't enough, all I can tell you is that it wasn't my mom any more and she didn't do this. Something that none of us here will ever be able to explain and understand took over and it was time for the suffering to stop.

    I will not be angry at her about this. I have enough memories to last a life time and I'll take that with me to my grave. And like Brian said, one day we'll talk again and I'll get the answers and will be able to understand. Until then, what are you going to do?

    I really just wanted to share this for my own sanity, but also to help anybody else. I wouldn't want anybody else to feel how my family and our friends feel now. This is just the worst. I have a 5 year old daughter who my mom adored. My daughter loved her to death. I had to tell Gabrielle that Nanny went to heaven. We used to visit all the time and have so many memories.

    If you or anybody you know ever has the thought, pm me. I will let you know what the after math is like. We had a great send off. The church was packed, huge luncheon. It made me feel really good because that lets me know that she must have done something right because that many people cared to come out.

    I'll just sum this up by posting the eulogy that my aunt's husband gave at the end of the mass:

    I'm Brian. I'm Helen's brother in law. Helen was my sister.
    I want to start by saying: It was her laugh. We were trying to describe Helen's sense of humor, and someone said, "It's not her sense of humor; it's her laugh". And I thought, exactly: Helen had this unique laugh, really memorable, the kind of laugh you could pick out over the noise of a crowd, the kind of laugh that makes you laugh.

    If you spent any time at all around Helen, you probably heard it, because she laughed a lot.

    Remember that: Helen laughed a lot. She had joy and happiness in her life. And since people generally don't laugh out loud when they're alone, that means she felt that happiness with you, because of you, the people in this room. We shared so many good times with her. Remember that. Take that with you.

    At a time like this, we struggle to find the right words. We don't know what to say to people who are hurting, or how to respond to heartfelt sentiments expressed inadequately. We try to sum up a life, and a feeling, and a connection. It's a task that would be difficult in the best of circumstances, and is impossible now, because the words don't seem to exist. We want to say how special she was, how important, how loved, how loving. Our culture pushes us to look for superlatives, for grandiosity, for exaggeration. But I realized, we do have the right words, and they are simple, direct, and meaningful. Those words are:


    Helen was the truest example of each of these words, and of what they stand for. At a time when it's hip to be cynical, Helen was neither. She was generous and kind. She came to you with an open hand, and an open heart, without deceit, without agenda. She was plainspoken and honest. She would do anything you asked of her, without asking in return. These are the things we try to teach our children. These are the things we hope others will see in us. They may seem old-fashioned, but Helen, and the people she touched, showed that they could be powerful, and enduring. And some of you are here not because you knew Helen personally or well, but are here in support of someone who did. Let me assure you: that person is a better person for having known Helen.

    Some might say that the map of Helen's life was a bit plain, not very big, with few significant landmarks. But I think the measure of her life was how many other people have Helen on the maps of their lives as a landmark, a reference point to help them find their way, and then find their way home. And though she is gone, she will still guide you when you feel lost.

    I know that for some of you, grief was a stranger until now. For others, grief is an occasional visitor. But when grief comes, it is always a winter day. The light is grey. The night is long. And it's cold, so cold that it seems you will never be warm again. But you will. Because great grief only comes from great love, and love will prevail. The days will be brighter, and longer, although the night will never go away completely. And when spring comes, you will go out and tend to the garden that Helen started. The crops she planted will continue to grow and bear fruit, and will help sustain you for the rest of your life.

    There are probably as many beliefs in this room as there are people, and we all have a different idea about what happens to you when you leave behind the weight of this mortal world. If you will indulge me, I'd like to share some of my beliefs with you.

    I believe that when Helen crossed to the other side of the river, her dogs, Cody and Max, ran to meet her. My mother was there to embrace her, and ask about my daughter. Mike's father was there, and Sharon's mom, and Nanny Katheder, and Nanny Daly, and Helen is telling them the most embarrassing stories about us.

    I believe that you will see her, in the occasional small mystery or miracle, and that you will talk to her in your dreams.

    And I believe, truly believe, that one day, you will hold each other again, and you will hear her laugh
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  2. Hazel

    Hazel SF & Antiquitie's Friend Staff Alumni

    Thank you so much for sharing this with us, your mum sounds like a wonderful woman, she touched so many lives and warmed them all.
    I hope that you will find some comfort in the knowledge that through your grief you may touch some of the people on this site who are in the grip of suicidal thoughts.

    With sympathy to you and your family
  3. PaleGhostGirl

    PaleGhostGirl Member

    I am so very sorry for your loss! Oh my goodness! I am truly speechless at this moment. Your post was so touching, it made me cry. Thank you for taking time out to share this with us. God be with you and your family during this truly difficult time.
  4. soliloquise

    soliloquise Well-Known Member

    wow i am so sorry :( this is v beautiful but incredibly sad x
  5. SpencerA

    SpencerA Well-Known Member

    hey, welcome to sf :) i'm so sorry for your loss, as inadequate as it sounds to say that, but i agree with Hazel, i hope you'll be made to feel welcome here. hopefully speak to you sometime soon.x
  6. Hurted

    Hurted Well-Known Member

    sorry for your loss:(
  7. rootedphoenix

    rootedphoenix Well-Known Member

    :hug: I'm not sure what to say, but your post is very touching. Please know that we are thinking of you.
  8. Petal

    Petal SF dreamer Staff Member Safety & Support SF Supporter

    Welcome to the forums.

    I am so sorry for your loss :(

    Maybe you will find some comfort here in helping others who are in the same situation as your mom was.

    I'm always around if you need someone to talk to :hug:
  9. gentlelady

    gentlelady Staff Alumni

    Thank you for allowing us to share your mother with you. She sounds like she was a beautiful person. I am so sorry that she felt the deep sorrow inside her that led her to the place it did. Depression is such a cruel disease, no matter the cause. I am glad you are not letting her decision destroy the wonderful memories you have of her. My thoughts and prayers are with your family as you move on through the greiving process and learn to live life without her physical presence. Please take care. Again, thank you for sharing your story with us. :hug:
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  10. cinZamurai

    cinZamurai Well-Known Member

    It sounds like she was a wonderful person. Sometimes the compassion of a human heart seems as deep as the untold sadness they hold.

    I am sorry for your loss mjpisat, the world lost one of the good guys. :sad:
  11. mayflower2_2

    mayflower2_2 New Member

    I have just read your post and feel I have to say that you are a wonderful son.
  12. kat82

    kat82 Member

    I haven't been in here for a while, and when I saw the title "my mum did it.." I had to go on reading your story. My mum did it too, last year, and a somewhat similar story. I must say your mum sounded like a great woman and it's sad and unfair that this happened to her and to your family. Just wanted to say thank you for sharing your story, it meant a lot to me. :smile:
  13. sudut

    sudut Well-Known Member

    You are not standing alone.
  14. wallflower

    wallflower Well-Known Member

    That was a really hard thing to go through. What you wrote for her was touching, and had me in tears... to me your words showed such love and compassion. I feel as though I know her from the words. I hope that you can heal through this difficult time.

    :heart: :heart:

    Peace & God Bless.
  15. wheresmysheep

    wheresmysheep Staff Alumni

    i am so sorry for your loss, that is an icredibly touching story. i thank you for sharing it really :hug:

    thank you
  16. d-pressed

    d-pressed Well-Known Member


    Your post brought tears to my eyes, I am truly sorry. Your mum had obviously been suffering in silence for a long time. I hope you and your family realise that there was nothing you could have done to stop this tragedy from happening. Depression causes people to be very unpredictable and impulsive in their actions, even when they seem to be recovering, as in your mum's case. You sound a very caring person and you did all you could. I hope you will find comfort knowing that your mum is safe in God's hands, and had a fulfilling life.

    I hope your baby daughter is healthy, and I wish you all the best.
  17. xXWhateverItTakesXx

    xXWhateverItTakesXx Forum Buddy

    Just read your post

    Just want to say, I'm sorry for your loss. I hope she is in a better place now and that she is at peace.

    Stay strong for your family, and my condolences to everyone who knew her x

  18. porcelain child

    porcelain child Well-Known Member

    Your mom sounds like a wonderful person, and i am sorry about your loss...

    Thank you for sharing..
  19. lettinGo

    lettinGo Well-Known Member

    your mom sounds amazing. i wish i knew her myself...
  20. crookxshanks

    crookxshanks Well-Known Member

    am so grateful that you found it in you to share your mother with us. am so sorry that you lost such a wonderful mother

    thinking of you x :hug: