This was originally going to be a reply to another thread. But it got of track, I didn't wanna deviate the other person's thread, and take too much space, so I decided to make my own thread. I know I made a similar thread, yesterday, that got deleted, rightfully so I might add, but this time I wanna keep it clean. I want this to be a civilized thread. I wanna share my religious belief, or lack thereof, and see if anyone feels like me. ---------------------- I am gonna try to be polite here, cuz next wrong move and I'm out. I was once a Christian, I was always a Christian, at one point, I even became a fundamentalist Christian. I don't consider myself an atheist today, I don't like these labels, anyways. I think we're all the same. We can pick and choose from a number of religions. To me they are all fairy tales. I don't wanna be confrontational or condescending, here. I'm trying to be nice and make my point, but I'm aware it may hurt some, cuz to some religion is true, but to me it is a delusion, so I know this is insulting, but what should I do, I wanna contribute my thoughts, here. Gee, now I'm so worried they'll kick me out. Well, I think, I'm being nice so far, if they're gonna ban me, I don't care. Back to the subject. I was always fascinated with human history, I believe we evolved from apes and that we don't really have much more purpose or worth than ants or monkeys. With civilization, came the irrational belief in a God in the sky. If you're depressed, and this belief helps you. I'm glad it does, really. There's more I could add, but I think everything has already been said. To me, the evidence is compelling and overwhelming, religion is non-sense. Why didn't God give us more clues? Christians, when they debate, they're still locked, or absorbed, in their delusion, or if you prefer religion. So I find it impossible to talk to them. When you're a Christian, you can't imagine living without 'God'. When you get out of the delusion, you can't believe you've been such a fool. To the moderators, non-believers view religion as some form of delusion, I don't mean no disrespect, I am just sharing my views. Philosophy is a nice replacement for religion. I am not afraid of the unknown. I create my own 'sacre'. I am a dreamer, maybe I'm deluding myself. Even if there is nothing, after we're gone, we won't know it. Before we were born, we didn't exist for an eternity, the past has no start, when we're gone, we might be gone for eternity, since the future has no end. We can only fear, while we're alive. I am too much of a optimist to believe there's nothing at the end. Why should EVERYTHING (this life, etc.) be so empty and sad at the end? Why should the mystery of life, of everything, be sad? Maybe, I too, am 'religious', in this way. I am not afraid of hell. Even if I like the idea of some people going there, I don't think it exists. It could bring some comfort to believe in it, but will I be deluding myself? My religion is UNSELFISHNESS. So I dislike hedonism, materalism, capitalism, greed and pride, etc. Some Christians assume if you're not religious that you're 'immoral'. I think my morals and ideals are much more higher and better than any religion I've heard of. ----- Reality is boring, we belong in the wild, with monkeys. All our problems are symptoms of civilization. Also, I dunno, if there is something after we're gone, I know I said I was an optimist, I'm bringing a correction, I don't think there is something, now, probably because I can't picture any nice 'afterlife', where I'd like to be. If I could, I'd probably delude myself. And when you're deluded, and it feels good, you somehow rationalize it, it must/it could be true.