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Narcissistic Abuse

anona123

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#41
It's like I'm a fucking ATM to him...nothing more.

But when I ask for affection, empathy, emotional security...those things are all fucking foreign to him.

He doesn't get that he makes me feel like shit. And I can't make him "get it". I try. Oh, how I try to explain to him what I need from him. That it's a two-way fucking street and he's not the only one hurting. But no matter how much I do try, it's still completely fucking pointless...and it breaks my fucking heart.
Hello. You say he talks about his pain being worse than yours - what do you mean by that? Does he have pain from some trauma? It sounds like he knows he has issues to work on, but doesn't recognize his narcissism - is that true?
Just trying to think of ways to help you get through to him. Nothing got through to me until it was too late.
 

Aurelia

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#42
Hello. You say he talks about his pain being worse than yours - what do you mean by that? Does he have pain from some trauma? It sounds like he knows he has issues to work on, but doesn't recognize his narcissism - is that true?
Just trying to think of ways to help you get through to him. Nothing got through to me until it was too late.
It's already basically too late. We've been separated for 4 months. And the ironic thing is, I'd still even come back if only he gave a shit enough to change. He claims he loves me, but apparently not enough to take any responsibility for his fuckups, let alone change them. Instead, I'm his scapegoat for everything that goes wrong. Well, partial scapegoat and full-time ATM, I should say.

Bottom line is, he doesn't realize that what he does/says is fucked up. He thinks it's normal and okay. And that's precisely why we can't be together. I wish more than anything that he'd wake the fuck up...but he most likely won't.
 
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Cursed712

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#43
Theres nothing worse than loving and having kids with a narcissist. Im the Dad and the kids are young and i work fulltime day hours so the kids also went with her when I was discarded which losing ur kids from under your roof is death in itself. And lets not forget the financial rape of child support on top of all that. I basically pay for two homes mine and hers. I hate this evil fucking life.
 

Cursed712

SF Supporter
#44
It's already basically too late. We've been separated for 4 months. And the ironic thing is, I'd still even come back if only he gave a shit enough to change. He claims he loves me, but apparently not enough to take any responsibility for his fuckups, let alone change them. Instead, I'm his scapegoat for everything that goes wrong. Well, partial scapegoat and full-time ATM, I should say.

Bottom line is, he doesn't realize that what he does/says is fucked up. He thinks it's normal and okay. And that's precisely why we can't be together. I wish more than anything that he'd wake the fuck up...but he most likely won't.
I know ur frustration. Been living it for years now. Thats y I started this thread cause only people experiencing it understand how hard of a life trial it is and we need a place to share our stories and vent to people who get it. I get it I know your pain.
 

Astrid78

Spoonful of sugar will help the medicine go down
#45
my ex screamed at me the other day, all the ways i am shit and how I make life just miserable for him, and if I would just remind him of what he has to do he would do it. I love how he blames me for his lack of actions. For everything really, he always turns things around so it's on me. It's still better though, to have him out of the house least I don't have to listen to it every damn day.
 

Cursed712

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#46
I started back at the gym weight lifting and cardio and started eating better and with those 3 things its helping me be able to start finally processing all the pain and anguish trapped and constipated inside of me and just helping with everything. I believe physical health is the main component in surviving and making it through this hell or any hell at that. This coming from someone whos been paralyzed in this shit for years just wishing for death every second. Just wanted to share that with you guys. We dont have to lay down and be murdered everyday theres things we can do to fight against the power of this type of abuse. Things we have to do to be able to make it through it.
 

Aurelia

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#47
I've been reading up on NPD quite a bit as of late. Started off with me just googling a question and reading some of the answers on Quora...and ever since, I've been getting emails from them about all kinds of other NPD-related questions. And it's been an interesting read, to say the least. Of course, my situation goes one step further, as mine is also a sociopathic narcissist...but a lot of the shit people have said would still resonate quite a bit. And it's somewhat helped me open my eyes to the fact that even when he pretends to be the "nice guy," almost nothing he says or does is genuine...and it's helped me realize that there's literally no point in continuing to contact one another. All it does is stress me the fuck out, for one thing. And even when he acts "nice" there's always some ulterior motive or purpose behind it, some sort of end goal, if you will. It's never genuine. It was a hard pill to swallow, but we haven't spoken in about 2 weeks now, and I'm pretty sure it's for the best.
 

anona123

Well-Known Member
#48
I've been reading up on NPD quite a bit as of late. Started off with me just googling a question and reading some of the answers on Quora...and ever since, I've been getting emails from them about all kinds of other NPD-related questions. And it's been an interesting read, to say the least. Of course, my situation goes one step further, as mine is also a sociopathic narcissist...but a lot of the shit people have said would still resonate quite a bit. And it's somewhat helped me open my eyes to the fact that even when he pretends to be the "nice guy," almost nothing he says or does is genuine...and it's helped me realize that there's literally no point in continuing to contact one another. All it does is stress me the fuck out, for one thing. And even when he acts "nice" there's always some ulterior motive or purpose behind it, some sort of end goal, if you will. It's never genuine. It was a hard pill to swallow, but we haven't spoken in about 2 weeks now, and I'm pretty sure it's for the best.
It probably is for the best. I realize what I've done but I'm almost 50 - it took me a long time to figure things out. I would say there were times I was nice but yes sometimes it's an act. Yes there's usually some end goal to it in mind, some odd thing we think we can gain. It's so hard to recognize in yourself though. It likely best it ends.
 

Aurelia

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#49
It probably is for the best. I realize what I've done but I'm almost 50 - it took me a long time to figure things out. I would say there were times I was nice but yes sometimes it's an act. Yes there's usually some end goal to it in mind, some odd thing we think we can gain. It's so hard to recognize in yourself though. It likely best it ends.
It's amazing to me that you recognize these things, though. It is possible for some narcissists (albeit, rarely) to change if they're perceptive enough and actually really want to. Seems like you're headed in that direction. I'm glad to see it.

He literally doesn't recognize anything that he does as being wrong. Or like, he'll say it was wrong, but doesn't seem genuine about it nor very remorseful for that matter. So basically, he just says it because he knows it's what I want to hear, in which case it doesn't mean a damn thing to me. I could literally sit there and spell it out for him and he still doesn't see it.
 

anona123

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#50
It's amazing to me that you recognize these things, though. It is possible for some narcissists (albeit, rarely) to change if they're perceptive enough and actually really want to. Seems like you're headed in that direction. I'm glad to see it.

He literally doesn't recognize anything that he does as being wrong. Or like, he'll say it was wrong, but doesn't seem genuine about it nor very remorseful for that matter. So basically, he just says it because he knows it's what I want to hear, in which case it doesn't mean a damn thing to me. I could literally sit there and spell it out for him and he still doesn't see it.
There were times I said sorry and kinda meant it, but then never put any thought into not doing it again. It's a terrible thing to have really. Your mind is messed up and your behavior is terrible but you just can't see it and really think you're right. You could try to discuss, but he'll likely be defiant. Obviously I can't really recommend if you should let it go but the journey likely won't be fun if you try to stay with them.
Thanks for the kind words. I've changed. I'm so ashamed of what I was. Once things really dawned on me it was horrifying. It's a big reason why I'm here. I know I'll never revert but the regret is intense.
 

Pebble mouse

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#52
My stepmum was defiantly a narcissist or psychopath. She played with my mind for years and to be honest was quite successful with it. I actually liked her at first, until she started showing her true colours. This is no good, but I'm glad she's gone.
 

BlueGreen

Well-Known Member
#53
I've been reading up on NPD quite a bit as of late. Started off with me just googling a question and reading some of the answers on Quora...and ever since, I've been getting emails from them about all kinds of other NPD-related questions. And it's been an interesting read, to say the least. Of course, my situation goes one step further, as mine is also a sociopathic narcissist...but a lot of the shit people have said would still resonate quite a bit. And it's somewhat helped me open my eyes to the fact that even when he pretends to be the "nice guy," almost nothing he says or does is genuine...and it's helped me realize that there's literally no point in continuing to contact one another. All it does is stress me the fuck out, for one thing. And even when he acts "nice" there's always some ulterior motive or purpose behind it, some sort of end goal, if you will. It's never genuine. It was a hard pill to swallow, but we haven't spoken in about 2 weeks now, and I'm pretty sure it's for the best.
That is the only way to survive it, to learn as much as possible. It's why I bang on about it here because the thought of someone suffering for even more years in the hopes of changing anything is terrible. I just look at narcs now and watch the floorshow. I hope he'll be just a bad memory for you sometime soon @Aurelia
 

Aurelia

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#55
There were times I said sorry and kinda meant it, but then never put any thought into not doing it again. It's a terrible thing to have really. Your mind is messed up and your behavior is terrible but you just can't see it and really think you're right. You could try to discuss, but he'll likely be defiant. Obviously I can't really recommend if you should let it go but the journey likely won't be fun if you try to stay with them.
Thanks for the kind words. I've changed. I'm so ashamed of what I was. Once things really dawned on me it was horrifying. It's a big reason why I'm here. I know I'll never revert but the regret is intense.
I'm sure that it is a terrible thing to have. I always did figure that he truly believed what he's done/said was okay. That's why I guess I still had empathy for him, even when he had none for me. I still wish him the best, but I can't be with someone who told me himself that he's not ever changing. That was probably the most genuine thing he's ever said.
 

BlueHealingHeart

Well-Known Member
#59
Yes, I was with my ex-boyfriend for about six and a half years and I had no idea I was even abused because he gaslighted me, manipulated me and pretty much brainwashed me. Before I knew it, I was so deep into the relationship that I didn't even realize what was going on. My ex also raped me when I was sleeping and denied ever so that to me. I ended up becoming addicted to pain medications to try to cope with everything because I lost my self-worth and esteem from the abuse. Everything became a nightmare for me, everyone thought I was literally crazy and constantly questioning me because they didn't wanna believe what was actually taking place. Little did I know my ex was telling everyone how crazy I was and that everything I was saying was a lie and that I needed help. In the end he replaced me or from what I know now, he discarded me and got a new girlfriend. He was already seeing her behind my back, without me knowing about it and pretty much ghosted me.

I fell into this huge depression once the PTSD symptoms started and found out about the girl he was seeing. It broke me completely, but once I began healing, the truth came out and I began to speak about everything that happened to me. This is pretty much why I wanted to end my life all those years ago, because of his abuse. It gets so deep that you don't want to believe that any of it is taking place and so many people don't believe you, because it sounds so crazy, but it happens and it's real. I got myself a therapist last year and been processing everything that happened to me and the things he did to me. I kept so much inside of me for so long, and I never spoke out about him raping me because of his death threats and because I was literally scared of him. So many people judge me by my experience, but I don't care anymore, because I have nothing to prove to anyone.
 

Velveteen Bunny

Well-Known Member
#60
We are only responsible for ourselves. If someone is a narcissistic jerk, that's their problem and they need to figure it out, but most never do. Which is why you will see them moving every few months or years, relationship and job hopping. My dad, who has always been that way, found it right up his ally to be a traveling salesman because he could have the best of both worlds... be promiscuous with strange women and then come home on weekends to be with my mom and us kids. I noticed that in the relationships I had with the narcs I let into my life, both were also like that and they only lived with me for three months because that's how long it took for me to realize that they were really crappy/messed up people and I kicked them to the curb.

We can't fix anyone else but our own selves. This self-isolating thing has been really hard for a lot of people because it's unnatural to be alone for long stretches of time; but on the other hand, it gives people an opportunity to spend time with themselves and work on themselves, alone. That's a challenge for anyone who is on the narcissist spectrum, because they think they need attention from an outside source, when in reality they just need to be able to be introspective about how they can improve and become a better human being with a strong character and ethics, not someone who backstabs, lies, twists words, steals, and only thinks opportunistically = what's in it for me. The best people I admire, do things for other people just because it's the right thing to do, not because they are going to benefit in some way. And they don't go around patting themselves on the back and telling everyone about the good things they've done, they just quietly do it without fanfare.
 

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