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not doing so good


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i really, really want to go out and buy as much chocolate as i can afford :bash: its not like it would even be a treat for doing well, ive been eating loads of crap recently :sad: ill never lose weight :sad:


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I know the feeling Bunny, I think I feel worse now ie heavier & less fit than I ever have in my life. :sad:


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FACT: The average chocolote bar has 8 insects' legs in it.

"In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness, saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand, . . . and his meat was locusts and wild honey." Matthew 3:1-4

The locust (Ceratonia siliqua) is the fruit of the carob tree, and accepted in the East as the food on which John the Baptist fed; thus it is known as St. John's bread.

Chocolate has been satisfying the sweet tooth of Britain for many years. However, as it grows naturally, it is highly unpalatable, bitter and unpleasant, and requires additives including large amounts of sugar, milk or cream to transform it into the tantalizing product on your grocer's shelf, having at least 50% of its calories in saturated fat which causes heart trouble.

Chocolate contains theobromine (a harmful alkaloid causing abnormal gland growth, headaches, sleepless-ness, depression, upset stomach, itching, and flushing of the skin), and tannin (thought to cause cancer of the digestive tract), and may contain high amounts of caffeine and theophylline. These poisons must be flushed out of the system by the kidneys and liver. Children who drink cocoa are more likely to have bedwetting problems. Chocolate has recently been incriminated in prostrate enlargement in men.

Harvesting of the cacao beans occurs in tropical countries where sanitation levels fall far below those in Britain & the US. Workers cut pods from the cacao tree and beans are piled in the farmer's yard and allowed to ferment for 3 to 8 days. This process is essential to developing the flavor.

During this process, children and adults walk over the piles; insects, rodents, small animals and other living things make their nests in the piles, and any type of contamination may occur during this primary processing stage of chocolate.

The U. S. Department of Health publishes a booklet entitled "The Food Defect Action Levels" and lists specifications of "current levels for natural or unavoidable defects in food" for chocolate in the form of "insect, rodent, and other natural contaminants" allowed by the FDA. Tolerance levels for chocolate and chocolate liquor used in the manufacture of such products as Hershey's chocolate, are up to 120 insect fragments per cup (8 oz) or 2 rodent hairs per cup. That means the Hershey's chocolate bar you eat may contain one rodent hair and 16 insect parts, and yet carry the FDA's blessing.

For chocolate powder or pressed cakes used for baking, there must be no more than 75 insect parts in 3 tablespoons of powder. Up to 4% of the cacao beans may be infested by insects. Rat droppings or other animal excreta must not exceed 10 milligrams per pound!

At a meeting of the Society for Clinical Ecology, a member related this experience. In an endeavor to track down the source of allergenic substances, he visited a South American country to study the cacao bean. He began at the sight where it was grown and traced it all the way through the manufacturing process. At one point he went down to the docks where the beans stood on open wharves awaiting shipment. On opening one of the crates he found it alive with cockroaches. He estimates that one-fourth of chocolate consists of dead, ground-up, melted-down cockroaches, and that is one of the factors that makes it such a common allergen.

Carob powder from the locust pod is a healthful chocolate substitute. Gram for gram, carob contains three times the calcium that milk does. It is high in phosphorus and potassium, and contains Vitamin A, B1 (thiamine), B3 (niacin), and iron. Carob is rich in protein and high in natural carbohydrates. It is 60% lower in calories than chocolate, and is high in minerals, low in fat, and produces no known allergic reactions. Carob contains no caffeine or other stimulants, and requires no fermentation. Best of all, no insect fragments!

Carob chips are also readily available at most health food stores but may contain added sugar and/or tropical oil, so beware!

(Thanks to health website)
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Hi Bunster...on the days when I feel like eating 'the good stuff', and everything that we should not eat does taste better...I eat it in small portions and make sure to not eat huge meals thereafter...I cannot think of a life without chips(crisps) or chocolate...and I do not care what is in the stuff, I still love it...yes, even American chocolate, although I must admit, Cadberrys (spelling) is so much better...thanks Mini for another addiction...lol...the important thing is not that you went off the plan, it is how to get back on it...start NOW...and go forward...big hugs


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Ok had a huge pig out the other day and felt like the weakest, fattest person on the planet :dry: So next day, got up and had nothing but the right food and exercised for an hour. Felt better about self and put the binge where it belonged..past and over.


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Ok Mike25... I don't know if I can look another chocolate bar in the face ever again! Yuck!!!:ohmy: I gave up meat for similar reasons - now it's chocolate that'll get the boot... sigh...


PS; Bunners, forgive yourself and start over. Tomorrow is a fresh beginning!


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Jackie, Pm me your address and I'll send you some Cadbury's chocolate parcels out, like the Ann Bancroft character does in 84 Charing Cross Road during the war! :biggrin: Probably the wrong idea for a HEAL thread but....mmmm, yummy chocolate! :wink:
Bunny, I'm trying to follow a low GI diet at the moment... doing as much as I can and trying not to beat myself for the inevitable "failures". One thing it says is eat anything with a high GI (ie chocolate) after a meal as it's not as bad as eating it alone. I'm also trying to eat chocolate only every other day at the moment in order to wean myself off it as much as possible. Maybe you could try something like that. The most important thing is to praise yourself for the good you do and not get bogged down in beating yourself up for every slip you make.


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well i just spent about 3hrs tidying my room (yes my room was that untidy) and now, even though my back hurts and i havnt slept yet, for once i dont feel like eating chocolate :huh:

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