Ok this is stupid
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I have to agree. I don't think most "overdoses" should be considered actual suicide attempts. They are usually a desperate attempt at getting attention. I don't mean to say that these people don't need help or don't have problems, but that type of thing is not a suicide attempt. If someone really wants to die, then they can go to Wal Mart and buy a shotgun for 150 bucks and ensure that they will die in a painless and nearly foolproof manner. If they are eating tylenol in a place where they can be found, they are at minimum undecided.
I have to agree. I don't think most "overdoses" should be considered actual suicide attempts. They are usually a desperate attempt at getting attention. I don't mean to say that these people don't need help or don't have problems, but that type of thing is not a suicide attempt. If someone really wants to die, then they can go to Wal Mart and buy a shotgun for 150 bucks and ensure that they will die in a painless and nearly foolproof manner. If they are eating tylenol in a place where they can be found, they are at minimum undecided.
not really true..
when i took the OD and mixed it with..... i really wanted to end my life and i even prayed to God to not let me be found and just let me die.. but after 30 minutes of taking the OD i chickened out and called a friend from church and told her what i had done.. i wanted the pain to stop.. and i wanted to die to make that pain stop but then i thought about my dad and couldnt go through with it so i chickened out
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Yeh I have to agree with you OP.
Everyone seems to use "the OD method"
You don't have to be a genius to know that it isn't that reliable. And people who OD on simple over the counter pain killers just have little idea. I don't think it's as much as a suicide attempt, it may be to get attention, to scream out for help, or they just wanna hurt themself in an intense moment. But yes, it does get old...
Everyone seems to use "the OD method"
You don't have to be a genius to know that it isn't that reliable. And people who OD on simple over the counter pain killers just have little idea. I don't think it's as much as a suicide attempt, it may be to get attention, to scream out for help, or they just wanna hurt themself in an intense moment. But yes, it does get old...
This is going to sound slightly mean and if it comes out that way it's not intentional. Why do you care so much about other people's methods to end it, whether it be serious ro a cry for help. Either way obviously they need help and need the attention. So I don't get why you care so much and why it offends you. Just my thoughts. And as for saying it's not a real attempt..how is swallowing a shit load of pills with the intention of eitheer dying or ending up in the hospital not an attempt. That baffles me.
Yeah, as inadream said, this is pretty pointless and is only going to needlessly upset people. I have some prejudice due to personal experience with a female friend of mine who went to the hospital after eating pills in high school. A few years later she admitted to me that she knew the dose couldn't kill her and just wanted attention. Obviously for some such as White dove, this was not the case.
Not to be politically incorrect, but I think men just have a harder time understanding the whole attempt thing. We either decide to eat a bullet or not, and our decisions are more black and white.
After all, the vast majority of suicide attempts are made by women, and the vast majority of completed suicides are performed by men. I don't think that the men are necessarily suffering more, they just have a different way of approaching the problem. That being said, I had a male friend who tried to kill himself with a heroin overdose and failed, so there are certainly exceptions.
Not to be politically incorrect, but I think men just have a harder time understanding the whole attempt thing. We either decide to eat a bullet or not, and our decisions are more black and white.
After all, the vast majority of suicide attempts are made by women, and the vast majority of completed suicides are performed by men. I don't think that the men are necessarily suffering more, they just have a different way of approaching the problem. That being said, I had a male friend who tried to kill himself with a heroin overdose and failed, so there are certainly exceptions.
Yeah, as inadream said, this is pretty pointless and is only going to needlessly upset people. I have some prejudice due to personal experience with a female friend of mine who went to the hospital after eating pills in high school. A few years later she admitted to me that she knew the dose couldn't kill her and just wanted attention. Obviously for some such as White dove, this was not the case.
Not to be politically incorrect, but I think men just have a harder time understanding the whole attempt thing. We either decide to eat a bullet or not, and our decisions are more black and white.
After all, the vast majority of suicide attempts are made by women, and the vast majority of completed suicides are performed by men. I don't think that the men are necessarily suffering more, they just have a different way of approaching the problem. That being said, I had a male friend who tried to kill himself with a heroin overdose and failed, so there are certainly exceptions.
Not to be politically incorrect, but I think men just have a harder time understanding the whole attempt thing. We either decide to eat a bullet or not, and our decisions are more black and white.
After all, the vast majority of suicide attempts are made by women, and the vast majority of completed suicides are performed by men. I don't think that the men are necessarily suffering more, they just have a different way of approaching the problem. That being said, I had a male friend who tried to kill himself with a heroin overdose and failed, so there are certainly exceptions.
This thread is rude and offensive to people and eventually will see backlash
Kanani,
You are right in that this is a stupid thread. The effectiveness or logic of an attempt is not a reliable indicator of how much pain someone is feeling. I think that people who purposefully OD on drugs run the gammit from non-suicidal attention seekers to people who are dead serious on ending their lives. Either way, it is not anyone's right to question the sincerity of posters on this forum, who are obviously here for help. Everyone here is all suffering in some way or another and should be helped if possible.
After reading them again, I recognize that some of my comments could be taken as insensitive, especally for those who still suffer physical or emotional problems from very real attempts at suicide with drugs. I sincerely apologize to anyone whom I offended, especially WhiteDove who kindly answered some private messages of mine. I did not mean to marginalize or dismiss anyone's pain. As I said earlier, I was digressing into a largely philosophical argument prejudiced by a former friend of mind who was not a very good person.
You are right in that this is a stupid thread. The effectiveness or logic of an attempt is not a reliable indicator of how much pain someone is feeling. I think that people who purposefully OD on drugs run the gammit from non-suicidal attention seekers to people who are dead serious on ending their lives. Either way, it is not anyone's right to question the sincerity of posters on this forum, who are obviously here for help. Everyone here is all suffering in some way or another and should be helped if possible.
After reading them again, I recognize that some of my comments could be taken as insensitive, especally for those who still suffer physical or emotional problems from very real attempts at suicide with drugs. I sincerely apologize to anyone whom I offended, especially WhiteDove who kindly answered some private messages of mine. I did not mean to marginalize or dismiss anyone's pain. As I said earlier, I was digressing into a largely philosophical argument prejudiced by a former friend of mind who was not a very good person.
Again od or bullet..it's still an attempt..feeble or not.
This thread is rude and offensive to people and eventually will see backlash
This thread is rude and offensive to people and eventually will see backlash
yes it is rude and offensive..
but the majority of people dont understand our pain and assume its wanting attention.. that is one of the main misconseptions of suicide and why a lot of suicides take place, some live, some succeed and die.. it is this way because people dont understand nor do they believe one could actually do it.. they think they are only wanting attention..
Same thing happened with me.. i didnt want attention.. i really wanted to die and would have been dead if i had not chickened out.. heck i wanted to know if anyone cared for me at all and i even sent a letter to my minister telling him i was gonna do it, the day, what i was gonna do , everything because i wanted to die.. he made no effort to stop me so i went through with it.. now i wished he had talked with me , then i probably would not have attempted it and would probably not be dealing with this cancer.etc..
I wonder if he blames himself now seeing as how i have cancer now and that he could have stopped me if he had taken me seriously???
Kanani,
You are right in that this is a stupid thread. The effectiveness or logic of an attempt is not a reliable indicator of how much pain someone is feeling. I think that people who purposefully OD on drugs run the gammit from non-suicidal attention seekers to people who are dead serious on ending their lives. Either way, it is not anyone's right to question the sincerity of posters on this forum, who are obviously here for help. Everyone here is all suffering in some way or another and should be helped if possible.
After reading them again, I recognize that some of my comments could be taken as insensitive, especally for those who still suffer physical or emotional problems from very real attempts at suicide with drugs. I sincerely apologize to anyone whom I offended, especially WhiteDove who kindly answered some private messages of mine. I did not mean to marginalize or dismiss anyone's pain. As I said earlier, I was digressing into a largely philosophical argument prejudiced by a former friend of mind who was not a very good person.
You are right in that this is a stupid thread. The effectiveness or logic of an attempt is not a reliable indicator of how much pain someone is feeling. I think that people who purposefully OD on drugs run the gammit from non-suicidal attention seekers to people who are dead serious on ending their lives. Either way, it is not anyone's right to question the sincerity of posters on this forum, who are obviously here for help. Everyone here is all suffering in some way or another and should be helped if possible.
After reading them again, I recognize that some of my comments could be taken as insensitive, especally for those who still suffer physical or emotional problems from very real attempts at suicide with drugs. I sincerely apologize to anyone whom I offended, especially WhiteDove who kindly answered some private messages of mine. I did not mean to marginalize or dismiss anyone's pain. As I said earlier, I was digressing into a largely philosophical argument prejudiced by a former friend of mind who was not a very good person.
All im saying is that the majority of people that overdose want attention from someone.
To say you overdosed and then 5 minutes later you called your friend at church is well.......
I dont mean to offend anyone, all im saying is that if someone really wanted to die they would overdose somewhere where they cant be found.
theres nothing wrong with wanting to be noticed so im not flaming anyone but i just dont feel such people actually wanna die, but are rather lonley and want to be noticed
To say you overdosed and then 5 minutes later you called your friend at church is well.......
I dont mean to offend anyone, all im saying is that if someone really wanted to die they would overdose somewhere where they cant be found.
theres nothing wrong with wanting to be noticed so im not flaming anyone but i just dont feel such people actually wanna die, but are rather lonley and want to be noticed
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