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Discussion in 'Opinions, Beliefs, & Points of View' started by ACRon, Jun 6, 2007.

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  1. ACRon

    ACRon Well-Known Member

    we were having a debate about this today in college, peoples warped opinions on the matter were really starting to piss me off. Personally I think anyone who is found guilty of mentally scarring a child in this way should have a machete slowly cut off chunks of there body until they bleed to death in agony. Some people’s suggestions went along the lines of sending them all to a secluded island full of other sick perverts, and then they could wallow in their own depravity all they liked with each other. that way they'll never get ANY satisfaction for obvious reasons.

    Maybe you think they should be allowed time to rehabilitate, nah, not good enough imo.

    Jim Gamble of the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre (CEOP), said some sex offenders, such as those found with child pornography - should not necessarily be imprisoned.

    Full article here;


    I stand for their exclusion from society and their chemical castration. By exclusion from society I mean TOTAL exclusion, this goes as far as no internet access and no ability to ever engage in a meaningful conversation with a person of good intent ever again in their whole lives. The fact they are allowed to congregate and get along in each others acceptance would be unforgivable.

    What punishment do you think befits those freaks...........?

    (Yes they are freaks; please view following, the weirdness starts about 35 seconds into it)

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  2. SeemsPerfect

    SeemsPerfect Guest

    I'm a firm believer that pedophiles cannot be rehabilitated and it is a crime for which there is no just cause. As a result the world would be better off without all of them.
  3. Two entire class sessions were devoted to pedophilia in my abnormal psychology course. I understand why these people do this and, frankly, if it's the true cause of the matter then there is no way at all that they can be rehabilitated.
    My professor explained that the reason these people are attracted to children is because mentally they are still at that age somewhere. If someone is raped/molested at a young age, somewhere they are mentally still there (which causes us to later become triggered by upcoming memories as if they had recently happened and the fear that we experienced then). People with mental disabilities where they are a young mental age than they are physically also tend to be attracted to children because they feel that they can relate and they better understand the children.
    Honestly though, I just don't think that punishment would stop anyone from doing it again or having urges to. If the urges are there, they can become strong enough that they could do it again. If these people are mentally at a younger age than they should be then there's no helping that really, you know?
  4. Will

    Will Staff Alumni

    Paedofiles like what they like. They are sick people. They CANNOT be cured.

    Just like anyone else out there who has a strong sexual preference. Though I do know it's not only the sexual side of the attraction to children, it's the innocence. The power and control they feel, of doing it to something innocent. It's sickening. So it's like a drug, it's addicting.

    It's not possible completely cure it. Maybe close to, and given they stay away from children, they might be okay. But it never goes away.
  5. ~Nobody~

    ~Nobody~ Well-Known Member

    There are also people who are not (psychologically-speaking) paedophiles, but who do sexually abuse children.

    I was going to reply properly to this but I find now that I can't, sorry.
  6. ACRon

    ACRon Well-Known Member

    thats ok nobody

    i raised this thread to keep 'crunch' issues like this at the forefront of discussion. any feedback is important, people ask questions, answers start to flow......
  7. bipolarbiped

    bipolarbiped Active Member

    I don't believe that these people are capable of changing their thoughts and desires; what I do believe is that they are capable of changing their actions. Or rather some of them who recognize that this type of behavior is damaging are capable of changing how they act upon the desires.
    There are so many facets to this type of person that it is difficult to discuss easily.
    Furthermore, is it right to just lock somebody away because it was a learned behavior? Or if it is a mental illness?
    I guess I am not sure of what should be done with people that sexually abuse children. At this point it is necessary to protect children from the predators so I must concede that they should be removed from society in general.
  8. ACRon

    ACRon Well-Known Member

    thanks for the feedback everyone, keep it coming.....
  9. You can't put someone away simply because he has this attraction to children. These people never chose to have these feelings towards children.
    I don't know anything about pedophiles' brains, and the rootcause of their problem, I don't know how it's comparable to homosexuality. Ok I know gays are consensual partners, by the very nature of their abnormality, and they don't hurt anyone. But both are bad-wired somewhere. I guess zoophilia and pedophilia are closer together, cuz both are after something that can't consent.

    Once someone abuses a child, he should be put away, and not only punished, but 'rehabilitated'.

    The problem with pedophiles is that they don't acknowledge that they have a problem. Now they can get together on the Internet and rationalize their problem, create a community of pedophiles and share their sick and twisted fantasies.

    No sane person would allow his child to go away with an adult.

    Anyways what would they do once the child is grown. Go from one to the other.

    Someone said that heterosexuals also molest children. They're called 'situational offenders'. These people are not looking for children, they molest them when they see them, and are more likely to get caught, that's why heterosexuals represent the biggest number of child rapists.
    While pedophile child molesters usually get away with what they're doing, 'cause it's just so easy.

    Y'all should check out Lindsay Ashford, he's like the most vocal pedophile activist. He has some videos on Youtube.

  10. Also. Few weeks back I saw on CNN, some child molesters living under an overpass, bridge, because that's the only place between these 2 cities, that children don't congregate, cause they have to live 100m away from places where children congregate, and that includes schools, churches, probably even stores.

    And that's inhuman and cruel, and I saw these capitalist republicans saying that they got what they deserve. Jesus I hate capitalists, they have zero compassion and they're selfish.

    You can't treat people like that.

    I know I'm the first one that will speak out against pedophilia, but I really don't think this is how they should be treated.

    They were living in tents amongst rats.

    I gave a link to Lindsay Ashford in my previous post, and I found someone respond to that video with a name pedo something, clicked on his name to view his profile, and he has many children videos. Pretty sick.
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  11. Malcontent

    Malcontent Staff Alumni

    Pedophillia isn't a homosexual thing, there are just as many hetrosexual pedophiles. Homosexuality is not comparable to pedophillia, it is not an abnormality, or bad-wiring or anything like that. I'm not sure how you're defining a pedophile, but I would say it's anyone who is atrracted to and wants to have sex with a child. And believe me there are plenty of women on this site who can tell you there are men out there who do that to girls.
  12. You've misunderstood me, I don't think that most pedophiles are gays.

    To think about it now, and since you brought it up, most of the cases of pedophiles I heard about were men molesting boys. So lets say that about 5% of the general population were homosexual, the number seems to be much higher amongst pedophiles, like 50% of pedophiles seem to be homosexual-pedophiles. But of course I invented these numbers, I never made a research on the subject.

    Back to my first post, what I meant is that humans were meant to be born with 2 legs and 2 hands, and if you are born with 3 legs, you have a problem, a man is born to be attracted to women, and gay men are not fully man, science has proven that there is a biological cause to their 'problem'. They have higher feminization level in some parts of their brain, I'm not a scientist, you've got the idea.

    So both gays and pedos in my opinion are not 'normal'. Just that gays don't hurt anyone, cuz by the very nature of their 'problem', they're attracted to the opposite sex ONLY, and it's consensual, while pedophila by it's very nature is non-consesual, same as with zoophilia.

    But since the world is so immoral, it won't surprise me that in the very near future, animals by law will be able to consent to sex.

    I don't see pedophilia ever becoming legal, tho, but who knows social progressives always push further.
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  13. ~PinkElephants~

    ~PinkElephants~ Senior member

    A man is not born to like just women and same goes for women being born to like only man. I don't find it to be a biological problem and if science has proven that it is can you please send me a link or some info on that proven scientific fact. I think that it's a choice as to who someone likes.

    As for the population of pedophiles only being men who are attracted to boys I don't buy that because I have seen news articles etc. about men also being attracted to girls. I think it just depends on the sexual deviancy of the pedophiles mind.
  14. I never said all pedophiles were homosexuals. I said only 5% of the general population were homosexual. But in the pedophile population about 50% were gays. It's first-grade mathematics.
    And these numbers could be wrong, I'm just talking about the cases I've heard about.

    I never said it was a choice, no one chooses to be born with 3 legs either.

    I'm not a Christian, me I'm trying to use logic.

    Only Christian retards believe gays choose to be gay and that God created everything 6000 years ago.
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  15. ~PinkElephants~

    ~PinkElephants~ Senior member

    My thoughts and beliefs are not based on me being Christian..cuz I'm not Christian. I don't believe in God I believe in the evolution from Apes so clearly your thoughts on me were misguided and you were too quick to jump to a conclusion on who i was as a person.
  16. Abacus21

    Abacus21 Staff Alumni

    Suicide_ideation - Don't insult people by calling them "Christian retards".

    Insulting people gets nobody anywhere - just breaks down relationships, threads, and debates.
    And that's what this is - a debate. And they are polite things, debates.

    Consider what you're saying before you press the 'Post' button.
  17. Kanani I wasn't calling you a retarded Christian.

    You're confused here.

    I wasn't referring to you, obviously, cause you stated that you didn't believe anyone chooses to be gay.

    When I insult Christian, it's not directed at anyone in particular, but to Christianity as a whole. I said only them could believe gays choose to be gay.
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  18. hammockmonkey

    hammockmonkey Well-Known Member

    So 50% of all pedophiles are gay? is that just gay males or does this mythical number include women? How did this number come into existence? Where can it be supported? How is it simple first-grader mathematics going from 5% of a general population to 50% of a sub-population? Or is that just a "logical" conclusion?

    All heterosexuals are "molesters of oppurtunity?" What does that exactly mean, "well your honor I was going to molest that fully grown woman, but then this 12 year old girl came over and I had to molest her. . ." While gays are sexual attracted to children regardless of situation? This assertion cannot be backed up by any evidence.
  19. bipolarbiped

    bipolarbiped Active Member

    suicide ideation
    Seems that you are using a flawed logic to come to these conclusions. I accept the fact that you are entitled to your opinion, but please admit that it is an opinion; not based on logic, because clearly it is not.
  20. Maybe the numbers are wrong, ok, I'll admit that.

    But no, I don't consider what I said to be an opinion, but rather facts.

    And Hammock just like Kanani is confused. They're saying things I never said. They confuse themselves, cuz they don't wanna understand.
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