Post suicide attempt psyche ward as punishment?

Discussion in 'After Effects' started by Ardo85, Dec 9, 2010.

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  1. Ardo85

    Ardo85 Active Member

    4 years ago I made an unsuccessful suicide attempt, called 911, and ended up in the hospital for several days and spent about a week in a psyche ward.

    Before being transferred to the psyche ward the doctor explained something to the effect of "You break into a car and then go to jail for some time you will think about that the next time and won't break into a car since you have experienced the consequences and wouldn't want to go through it again."

    By that logic the next time I attempt suicide I will think about how I "did time" in the psyche ward and I will be discouraged to try it again. I think this is very flawed logic on his part. I think instead of being discouraged I'd try a more drastic method <mod edit, TDM -- methods>. I would also be more unlikely to reach out for help.

    What are your thoughts on this situation?
     
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  2. damage.case

    damage.case Well-Known Member

    I was just 5150'd. Spent 4 days in the psych hospital. My doctor never said anything like that, and I'm pretty confident he was just trying to help me.
     
  3. Fitzy

    Fitzy Well-Known Member

    I think the doctor had no understanding of what it feels like to be suicidal.
    I'm more concerned about your current state. Are you feeling suicidal again? Please get psyche help before doing anything drastic!
     
  4. Johnnyc

    Johnnyc Well-Known Member

    I think that doctor needs some help, why would you tell someone in a desperate situation their no better than a criminal.
    Thats just wrong.
     
  5. Ardo85

    Ardo85 Active Member

    Actually nowadays I'm doing a lot better. Since that event I have had 2 more visits to psyche wards and encountered other things that seemed to tick me off. I noticed they treated people like children or pets rather than adults when they "misbehaved".

    Prior to one of the stays in another ward I didn't have a job, was still fairly depressed, and turned to drinking. I would buy beer often when parents would give me spending money and sit around and drink while playing video games. I know alcohol is a big no no when depressed. When I explained this situation to a psychiatrist, instead of being supportive and advising me to stop drinking he just laughed at me.
     
  6. Fitzy

    Fitzy Well-Known Member

    I really thought things had changed! My last od was 30 years ago. The sister in a&e told me I was a silly cow and that what I needed was a good slap!
    Having said that a friend of mine felt that she was treated well when she took an od recently.
     
  7. Ardo85

    Ardo85 Active Member

    Yea, these people have no idea what its like to be suicidal. You can't just snap out of your depression or will yourself out of it. The day after my suicide attempt in the hospital a hospital worker that of course had good intentions but no understanding of how I might feel constantly told me to smile. But, you know what? I just tried to kill myself yesterday, I don't feel like smiling. Then there are the people who try to tell you that you have nothing to be depressed about. They assume you are merely choosing to be depressed. If everyone could simply change their mind from being depressed to perfectly happy I doubt this website would even exist among other things.
     
  8. dazzle11215

    dazzle11215 Staff Alumni

    i'm shocked at the response of your doctor, but not surprised. i've met some caring psychiatrists and some indifferent ones. luckily my current shrink is very good, and the psych ward i usually end up in is good. recently i was on another ward and had a very bad experience there. i felt like a caged animal, being drugged and ignored. ugh. don't ever want to go back there.

    glad you are feeling better these days. don't forget you can post away here if things get bad again.
     
  9. sinnssykdom

    sinnssykdom Banned Member

    It's pretty brutal depending on where you go. I also agree that many times it is like punishment rather than actually helping.
     
  10. TheLastAirbender

    TheLastAirbender New Member

    33 days in the Psych Ward is unbearable. I still feel like I'm there, only now I'm at home. GAH.
     
  11. catecholamine

    catecholamine Well-Known Member

    I was never committed as punishment, but one of my caseworkers said something to the effect of had I learned my lesson after the hospital stay. Kind of irked me.
     
  12. GA_lost

    GA_lost Well-Known Member

    Mental health care is extremely spotty. Within a thirty mile radius of where I live, the hospitals have a very different quality. Therapists, counselors, and pdocs are also very different. What has recently really bugged me was Travis on the Doctors show smirking about people who cut. He could not believe people cut to try to cope with stress. If an ER doctor says things like that on air, how can we expect anything different one on one?
     
  13. Void

    Void New Member

    About 5 years ago i was committed to a psychitric hospital following a suicide attempt. I was under police escort when transfered from the general hospital and placed in isolation for what was then an undesignated period of time due to the fact that the police and medical staff believed i was a danger to myself and to others.Despite the fact i could not use my hands due to the wounds on my wrists. I found that the Drs and police were totally clueless and after being released into my mothers care found myself even more upset and resentful of everyone i had come across throughout the experience. Family included especially considering we arnt on good terms at the best of times. Years later and my situation has not improved and i just cant get over the fact that I was obviously in need of help prior to my very nearly succesful attempt and was unable to find it until i took the drastic step and found it to be USELESS. I was turned out and as i cannot live with my mother was homeless and mentally ill. I have been diagnosed with Bi polar and PTSD. Anyhow i felt that i was put in that place as a punishment rather than a place to get help. The shit ive been through since then just seems to rub salt into the sore and now I am even more unwilling to seek help and I now HATE police as it seems they are quite happy to ruin the life of someone that is an easy target while real criminals defraud the public rape and murder and whilever they have enough money to get a good defense they have nothing to worry about. GRRRRR yes it felt like a punishment.
     
  14. pogosticker

    pogosticker Well-Known Member

    I agree with the OP. I've never been in a psych ward myself, but from what I've read it seems like more of a punishment than a road to recovery.

    Instead of stopping people do it again, I think it'll be more likely to make people keep their problems to themselves and make sure it works next time.

    I get the whole tough love thing. But if it's being treated as a punishment.. I just don't think that's right.
     
  15. solutions

    solutions Well-Known Member

    State hospitals are punishment. The staff are all underpaid and under-trained. If you find yourself in one, good luck bearing with it.

    On the other hand, if you can get yourself into a nice private hospital, it can actually be kind of pleasant, at least if you didn't want to go home. I enjoyed my time at McLean for the week I was there.

    Those aren't punishments. So don't lump hospitals together as punishment.
     
  16. warrabinda

    warrabinda Well-Known Member

    what a horribly patronising attitude.
    if you're interested you might want to flip through foucault's birth of the clinic. how assylums had the duual function of seperating the 'mad' from the 'normals' in society. and how we've constructed a difference between 'mad' and 'bad'.
    psych wards are not meant to punish anyone in this day and age.
     
  17. theaterfreak

    theaterfreak Well-Known Member

    they aren't meant to but they do. i was in a psych hospital in aug. it seemed like all people did was smoke. and when we had "group therapy" it mostly consisted of this one guy telling us all his problems twice a day. the only thing i've learned is hopefully i never get that down that i attempt suicide again but if i do to make sure i do a good job. i never want to go back there.
     
  18. Speedy

    Speedy Staff Alumni

    Well said.

    Ditto, I echo those sentiments. That's exactly how my two month experience in a psych hospital played out.
     
  19. GoldenPsych

    GoldenPsych Well-Known Member

    I only really know what the staff are like on psych wards from another staff memebers point of view. But the staff on general wards and the ED are a mixed bag. Actually, there are only very few good staff who treat you with respect and not like a child. I had one consultant start having a go at me as he thought I had removed my own stitches from my leg and he starts having a go at me saying this is the last time I am going to stitch it up as there is no point if you are just going to take them out etc etc. I tried arguing back with him but there was no way I was going to win. It was pretty obs I hadn't as the stitch was still intact and was obs it had pulled through the skin as the stitches weren't deep or strong enough. It was the F2 who messed up not me.

    I was actually threatened with being admitted by one of the psych nurses. He said the self harm was getting too serious and was getting out of hand. He even went as far as speaking with another team. He said before it hasn't been an option but it now was as I couldn't control it. It does seem as though it is being used as punishment though as I am feeling like I am.
     
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