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Pretty sure I just experienced abuse

#1
Trigger warning: Sexual abuse

Hey. Very recently my partner did something shocking and completely out of the blue to me. We've had a good sex life (and relationship) up until now. He choked me during intercourse (I consented to this beforehand), but he choked me too hard, about to the point that I almost couldn't breath. I could just about get out the words "too hard" but he responded with "don't care" and continued until he finished. He then laughed it off after and said "sorry, I wasn't trying to kill you". I don't understand it, because up until this he always respected my boundaries during sex, always made sure I was feeling okay, and didn't do anything that hurt me. This was absolutely spontaneous and completely out of the blue. I then brought it up later and told him I was upset, he apologised but I can't get over it at all.

I am going to end the relationship because of this. I now feel scared of him, because he's shown me that he actually cannot control his urges, and saying "don't care" just cut deep and hurt me so much... but he just laughed it off like it was a joke.

I already know what I'm going to do, but I still wouldn't mind input/advice. I'm 34, female, partner is 34, male. We had a normal relationship up until this.
 

seabird

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#2
Very sorry to hear this.

Welcome to SF but it's unfortunate in the extreme what happened to bring you here.

Personally, coming from my experience; get him away from you and break off the relationship.
 
#5
I'm sorry that this happened.

I just want to check to make sure you don't mean a suicide attempt, though it sounds like you just mean leaving the relationship.


I think it's entirely reasonable to do this if he isn't respecting boundaries.
Hey, no I don't mean a suicide attempt. I suffer with suicidal thoughts though.
 

KM76710

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#6
Hey, no I don't mean a suicide attempt. I suffer with suicidal thoughts though.
Welcome and glad to have you on the forum with us. Yes, you DID experience abuse and good move to skedaddle away. I am sad that did happen to you especially with you telling it had not happened before and then all of the sudden it did. I hope that we may be able to offer you good advice and comfort because you are among caring folks.
 

Walker

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#7
I can see why this would shake the foundation of your relationship. These things rely on a high level of trust and when that is shattered, it's very difficult to get back. Consent for one things doesn't mean he can just take that further with zero regard for your feelings. I don't know where you're from but if somewhere like the US you might be able to get a few sessions with a kink friendly therapist to talk things over with.
 
#9
I think there is a bit more information that could add context, was the choking something that you had done before and who asked for it this time, do you have an agreed safe word?
We've done it before. It was mutually agreed to and consented by us both. We don't have a safe word. This was the first time he disrespected my boundaries and displayed no concern to my safety. The fact that he used the words "don't care" is what made me make my decision... I couldve passed out or worse, and apparently he didn't care about that, so yeah.
 

Aurelia

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#10
I think maybe he misinterpreted the fact that you were truly hurt and afraid when he said "don't care". Which explains why he laughed it off after the fact. So I think there was a miscommunication. I'm not sure that I would go to such extreme measures as ending the relationship because of this, but make sure he truly understands how you felt in that time and how you feel about him now because of what happened. If you still misunderstand one another, try to talk things over with a therapist.
 
#11
I think maybe he misinterpreted the fact that you were truly hurt and afraid when he said "don't care". Which explains why he laughed it off after the fact. So I think there was a miscommunication. I'm not sure that I would go to such extreme measures as ending the relationship because of this, but make sure he truly understands how you felt in that time and how you feel about him now because of what happened. If you still misunderstand one another, try to talk things over with a therapist.
He said "don't care" during sex, while he had his hand around my throat, and continued choking me until he was finished.
 
#13
I know that, I just think maybe he did this because he misunderstood how you felt.
Well I mean, when you tell your partner that you're uncomfortable and you visibly look uncomfortable, and their response is just "don't care", I'm not sure what else to discern from it than he just didn't care about my safety in that moment. Choking is highly dangerous. You have to be very careful about it and need to be able to trust your partner a lot to do it.
 

Acy

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#14
While I think it’s possible he misunderstood, I believe it is very unlikely that was the case. ā€œDon’t careā€ is an indication that @Moomin67 ’s discomfort (and danger, fear, etc.) was not as important as her parter’s own desire for gratification.

Moomin67, it’s none of my business…and I’ll still butt in…I’m really, really sorry this happened to you. For your safety and well-being, I hope from now on, whoever you are with, you will have a safe word and a partner you can trust.
 

Aurelia

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#15
Well I mean, when you tell your partner that you're uncomfortable and you visibly look uncomfortable, and their response is just "don't care", I'm not sure what else to discern from it than he just didn't care about my safety in that moment. Choking is highly dangerous. You have to be very careful about it and need to be able to trust your partner a lot to do it.
You're right, but you'd be surprised what people don't understand and misinterpret. It was obvious to you because you showed your discomfort as well as you could and announced it, but to him it's not so obvious. He's not in your mind and maybe isn't focusing on those not so subtle hints while making love.
 

SamB

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#16
In my opinion the only explanation that would be a reasonable excuse is that when he said ā€˜don’t care’ he thought that it was part of the role he was playing. If that was the case then I would expect that explanation to be forthcoming straight away and for it to be accompanied by a heartfelt apology.
If this is not the case and the ā€˜don’t care’ was a representative statement of his thoughts at the time then ending the relationship seems like a sensible way react.
 
#17
Hello Moomin67,
I stumbled across this article by chance, I actually came here because I had attempted suicide, but that's a different topic, or maybe somehow related to it.
But what I want to say is that I'm very sorry for what happened to you with your boyfriend.
You are rightly the victim, but without careful questioning, this could also have happened because your friend is also a victim but cannot talk about it openly.
I can only recommend that you talk to your friend about it calmly and without pressure and try to clarify it rather than just walking away.
Because if you love him once and just walk away, he may be left alone with his problem and bad consequences could happen for him or someone else.
I don't want to say stay with him, that's a decision only you can make, but even if you break up you can offer your ex boyfriend help.

I'll tell you my story, maybe your friend has something similar and he needs help.
First I would like to apologize for my bad English, it is not my native language and I live in Europe.

I'm speaking from experience here, as I also occasionally had these extreme outbursts of violence during sex and I even injured my girlfriend at the time very seriously.
I had never intended this, but it came over me and became like a frenzy, <mod edit - violence>
I had apologized and my girlfriend hadn't left me, even though I couldn't give her an explanation.
But after a few months I left her because I couldn't bear the shame and shame. I was no longer willing to have sex with her because I was afraid of what had become of me.
It had never happened before and I didn't play SM games either, I was usually the quiet type.
I wasn't able to form a relationship for several years because I was afraid it would happen again.
Only after a few years, when I started forgetting, did I start a new relationship.
Everything was ok and we had two beautiful children and I thought I was leading a normal life, but then it happened again, I <mod edit - violence>
My wife no longer recognized me and was afraid for the children. She called the police and I had to leave our house. That's why she got a divorce, after 6 long years of marriage in complete love.
Because of this additional stress, I also lost my job. When I was completely devastated because I had lost everything, I decided to end my life. Not because of what happened, but because I was afraid that one day I might harm my children. I loved my children more than anything and I wanted to kill myself for their safety.
I lived far away from my town where I grew up, I decided to end my life where it began. <mod edit - method> I drove 6 hours in my old town. I couldn't drive to this bridge because a billboard across the way fell over and blocked the road. There was a message from the church on the advertising board, I said to myself angrily that God can't stop me from doing this.
I had to walk a short distance through an industrial ruin. At the end there was a small, abandoned security guard room. Otherwise I probably wouldn't have noticed it from the street because it was on the side of the bridge. Then it happened when I saw the old security room and recognized all the graphite. I collapsed with pain and cramps and had a seizure.
There were flashes of appearances from my youth that I had repressed and couldn't remember for years. When I was about 14 years old I used to pass by here often until one day a group of older kids intercepted me, beat me up and robbed me.
My clothes were completely torn, after they were done with me they dragged me into this room where the oldest of them <mod edit> raped me, then they urinated on me together and left me seriously injured.

It wasn't until the evening that I was able to move again and returned home. I only said that I had been beaten up and robbed, I wanted to forget everything else and I forgot it.
I probably stayed on the ground for a few hours and thought about what to do now, <mod edit - method> or not. I suspected that this was where my violent outbursts came from and I decided not to kill myself (or not yet) and walked back to my car.
There I met a police car who were looking for me because I sent a video to my ex-wife asking me to show it to the children when they were older, it was my farewell letter to my children where I apologized for what I did I did it and excused the impending suicide, but I didn't see any other way out. However, my ex-wife played this immediately, when I didn't answer her attempts to call, they informed the police and only when they located my car did they know where I was.
I confirmed my name to the police and asked them to help me and take me to a mental hospital. I quickly got myself to the hospital because I no longer had any intention of killing myself, but to this day, a year later, I'm being treated and trying to process everything. I don't know if I'll succeed, I have good days and not so good days, but I now have the reason for everything.
Whether it's better now? No, currently I have the inner urge to <mod edit - violent desires>, even though I don't want to. I'm not giving up hope yet that I can be healed from this. If not, I've decided to <mod edit - method> because I don't want anyone to be injured or have to experience that.

Therefore, I can only recommend that you talk to your boyfriend or seek professional help for him, even if you want to leave him. Your friend may be a victim too.
There are people who like violence, there are enough people who live out their fetishes, but everyone knows their limits and can control them.
Your boyfriend sounds like he can't control himself, that's exactly how it was with me, then his violence comes through for a completely different reason and he needs help.
It wasn't until the evening that I was able to move again and returned home. I only said that I had been beaten up and robbed, I wanted to forget everything else and I forgot it.
 
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UrbanRose

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#18
How long have you and he been in a relationship? Maybe it's good you got to see this side of him before your commitment to him got deeper.

It's very disturbing that he got gratification out of causing you distress. That's sufficient reason, IMHO, for you to be wanting to end it with him.

There's another aspect to this that's concerning. It sounds like he has decided that he needs new sources of "thrill." Once a guy gets into that mindset - and this is usually a male thing - it's likely that he is going to want to introduce more kinkiness into his sex life. He's starting to see sex not as an expression of love, but as a quest for more and more intense arousal. That's an endless quest. He's a young man who has decided he's bored with ordinary lovemaking. I'ld also suspect that he'll eventually stray into infidelity. He may look for women willing to do what you're not willing to do, even if he has to pay them.

I can understand you wanting him to show some remorse. However, if he shows none, that is valuable feedback.
 
#19
Trigger warning: Sexual abuse

Hey. Very recently my partner did something shocking and completely out of the blue to me. We've had a good sex life (and relationship) up until now. He choked me during intercourse (I consented to this beforehand), but he choked me too hard, about to the point that I almost couldn't breath. I could just about get out the words "too hard" but he responded with "don't care" and continued until he finished. He then laughed it off after and said "sorry, I wasn't trying to kill you". I don't understand it, because up until this he always respected my boundaries during sex, always made sure I was feeling okay, and didn't do anything that hurt me. This was absolutely spontaneous and completely out of the blue. I then brought it up later and told him I was upset, he apologised but I can't get over it at all.

I am going to end the relationship because of this. I now feel scared of him, because he's shown me that he actually cannot control his urges, and saying "don't care" just cut deep and hurt me so much... but he just laughed it off like it was a joke.

I already know what I'm going to do, but I still wouldn't mind input/advice. I'm 34, female, partner is 34, male. We had a normal relationship up until this.
Woah woah woah, there is some advice on here that I want to go ahead and call out a bit because I do think it’s needed!

Some folks on here saying he maybe misunderstood how you were feeling etc.

I really don’t think that’s a helpful way to think about what he did… everything you’ve said here screams all kinds of red flags. I think you are absolutely right in your impulse to leave asap, and that what you went through was abusive. What a horrible uncaring & scary way to approach intimacy with a partner.

I think sometimes people can get caught up in trying to understand why something like this occurred rather than doing the wise thing which is just getting themselves out of there as quickly as possible.

Another possible form of support is a rape crisis or sexual abuse helpline… hopefully they will have folks who are actually trained in responding to situations like this and will understand better how to respond helpfully.

Just wanted to post here because I can see some folks have tried to kind of ā€˜explain away’ what he did and I really don’t think that’s the best approach to this kind of situation. At all.

I think you are right in you initial assessment that something is not right. How are you doing now? Have you distanced yourself from him?
 

UrbanRose

Well-Known Member
#20
Woah woah woah, there is some advice on here that I want to go ahead and call out a bit because I do think it’s needed!

Some folks on here saying he maybe misunderstood how you were feeling etc.

I really don’t think that’s a helpful way to think about what he did… everything you’ve said here screams all kinds of red flags. I think you are absolutely right in your impulse to leave asap, and that what you went through was abusive. What a horrible uncaring & scary way to approach intimacy with a partner.

I think sometimes people can get caught up in trying to understand why something like this occurred rather than doing the wise thing which is just getting themselves out of there as quickly as possible.

Another possible form of support is a rape crisis or sexual abuse helpline… hopefully they will have folks who are actually trained in responding to situations like this and will understand better how to respond helpfully.

Just wanted to post here because I can see some folks have tried to kind of ā€˜explain away’ what he did and I really don’t think that’s the best approach to this kind of situation. At all.

I think you are right in you initial assessment that something is not right. How are you doing now? Have you distanced yourself from him?
Sound advice.
 

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