Pro suicide websites

Discussion in 'Opinions, Beliefs, & Points of View' started by Petal, Jul 6, 2008.


Do you think pro suicide websites should be banned?

  1. Yes

  2. No

  3. Unsure

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  1. Petal

    Petal SF dreamer Staff Member Safety & Support SF Supporter

    Do you think they should be allowed on the web or should they be banned?

    Personally I think they should be banned.
  2. seithkein

    seithkein Well-Known Member

    I think they should be allowed.
  3. fromthatshow

    fromthatshow Staff Alumni SF Supporter

    I was the only unsure vote :laugh: :unsure:.

    I think it's better to offer places to get help because no one is helpeless. No one is forever doomed. We can all get better.

    But I suppose it could be good for someone to come across one of these sites. They may take a step back and realize it's not what they really want. Or they may do it. So I don't know I mean like people have said before if people want to find a way they will.
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  4. camerondavid

    camerondavid Guest

    They should definately be banned.
  5. GaiaMischief

    GaiaMischief Well-Known Member

    Malicious ones that try to encourage the idea that there's no hope in life and that people should be allowed to die because it's their right? Banned.

    I have no problem with anything preaching euthanasia, however, when it comes to dealing with terminal illnesses that are causing people agonizing pain.
  6. fromthatshow

    fromthatshow Staff Alumni SF Supporter

    People that want to commit suicide are most likely in a lot of pain. And emotional pain is worse than physical pain in my opinion. That is, if there is a difference. Some people say that all physical pain is realted to emotional pain in one way or another, which I tend to agree with.
  7. Issaccs

    Issaccs Well-Known Member

    If it weren't for Method sites I would probably be using someone elses liver at this time in my life.
  8. Darken

    Darken Well-Known Member

    freedom of speech. enough said.
  9. Blueberry

    Blueberry Active Member

    I think it's sad that these sites exist when all the evidence points to suicide being a passing thought for many.

    Suicide is like a chainsaw decimating the lives of those who lose someone that way. They never get over it -- always feel they could have, should have done something. Many survivors end up comitting suicide themselves. It destroys like an atom bomb.

    These sites that encourage suicide are EVIL.

    Do I think they should be banned? Yes.

    Just like serial killers should be put in jail forever. They predate on those in pain, those who suffer from mental illness, those at risk -- and joyfully push them over the edge.

    These sites are the worst of humanity and are run by psychopaths.
  10. downunder

    downunder Well-Known Member

    I think they should be banned. My daughter went to one and followed the instructions and now she is not here anymore. She found out that the method was going to be a lot easier than first thought. We know this by reading emails and seeing the site she visited.
  11. fromthatshow

    fromthatshow Staff Alumni SF Supporter

    I am so sorry :hug:
  12. Hae-Gi

    Hae-Gi Banned Member

    Many people truly are helpless and can never be happy, again. For instance, a great deal of those who get raped can never "get over it." It infuriates me that some people see it so that these people, who have no other way out than death, should be refused the possibility of researching for proper ways to die. Furthermore, some people want to die, even at a young age, even if they have found what will make or has made their life complete, like, for instance, if someone has found their true love, but do not want to live a long life with her/him, and, in full agreement with the other, with time want to make a suicide pact, together, so they can be together, in death, for all eternity. Anyone who objects to that should go to hell, quite honestly (if hell existed, that is).
  13. Blueberry

    Blueberry Active Member

    "Many people truly are helpless and can never be happy, again."

    Studies do not back this claim up -- in fact, quite the opposite.

    "For instance, a great deal of those who get raped can never "get over it.""

    Never getting over something is not synonymous with no quality of life, or even being miserable all the time.

    My mother committed suicide -- in many ways it has ruined my life and I will never get over it -- but life has gotten better and things continue to improve every day. I've found new meaning in life and continue to experience joy.

    I'm glad that a pro-suicide site wasn't in my face during those early days of excruciating pain when I had no perspective. I'm glad that instead I went to the hospital.

    I'm glad that in a moment of vulnerability I was nursed instead of pushed over the edge.
  14. Hae-Gi

    Hae-Gi Banned Member

    What studies are these? Ones conducted by the Catholic church? Trusting studies that quite possibly are unobjective really is unwise and it should not be so difficult to understand that some people can get their lives ruined for life, anyway.
  15. fromthatshow

    fromthatshow Staff Alumni SF Supporter

    But you are trying to make an objective statement saying some people really can have their lives ruined, when that is all just perception. People can view things however they want. It is impossible to "ruin" a life, what does "ruin" a life even mean? We have free will. We can choose to do whatever we want with what we've been given.
  16. Hae-Gi

    Hae-Gi Banned Member

    Everything is perception. If you see a white cat passing you, do you assume you saw a white cat or do you question that you saw it even after having seen it again after turning around to have another look? Aside from that I know that my life would be completely ruined if I was raped, if I see people who are completely miserable and do not get "better," due to rape, do I assume that they are right in what they are saying or do I assume that they are delusional? Not that one should need to have come across such people to understand. As for your bullshit about free will; typical remarks from people who lack empathy.
  17. unbearable

    unbearable Well-Known Member

    That is a good point, if i hadn't researched either i would have tried a method i now wouldn't go near meaning my life now might be better than if i hadn't actually been put of by looking into it.
    I don't like sites that encourage people though at all, if there was a site that was respectful with no trolls than I think people should have freedom to look these methods up.
  18. aki

    aki Well-Known Member

    I agree with pro choice websites, but not pro suicide. I think you should be able to find information on methods because it might be more damaging if you didn't have information. Everyone has the right to commit suicide. Pro choice websites usually try and persuade you to not make rash decisions, try and get help etc. but respect your decision if your mind is made up.
    Pro suicide websites are completely different thing though, they don't give any help or advice and only offer negativity. So yeah, I think they should be banned. Not necessarily all method sites are like this though.
  19. Name19

    Name19 Member

    Please Re-evaluate your ignorance it disturbs me.No Offense but your remarks are typical sign of pessimistic ignorance.May I recommend you study a bit of psychology(nothing big just a few articles) before you run your mouth?

    I believe this sites should be Banned, while some people may argue that is a choice or "Freedom of Speech" but this people think to optimistically and don't think of the 2 type of people that are prone to visit this sites that are in NO condition to read, or shallow what this sites have to offer.One, teenagers or overall children and secondly Mentally Unstable(be it temporary or not) that may find themselves in despair bit it a Brake up, or social problems(or even DRUGS) instead of finding a site that supports each other to live to get back up like this Forums they find a site that promotes Death as the elixir for pain,and more so ways of doing the deed.

    I think we can ALL agree that we have made several choices we regret, luckily it wasen't this type of mistake.I dont know what I anyone would think leaving this out on the reach of everyone is a good idea.

    While I would like to say people should have the choice to have it if they pleased but I dont think a few Joes that want to gather crowd so they can end themselves are worth an impressionable child's life or an Ill person jumping the gun because of what they see.
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  20. perry_mason

    perry_mason Well-Known Member

    I dont agree with them but I dont think they should be banned.

    If something like a suicide website can get banned, it could start off a chain reaction of censorship and an erosion of free speech rights.

    next various household items could get banned because you could use them to kill yourself.

    then who knows where it could end?

    and even if the websites were banned, there would still be other ways of finding out about methods.
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