Sex Trade

Discussion in 'Soap Box' started by Epiphany, Aug 8, 2008.

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  1. Epiphany

    Epiphany Well-Known Member

    I want to know what people think about prostitution. I work in a "rub and tug", and I have certain feelings about my occupation.
    I know some consider it the lowest thing a woman can do to herself, while others may see it as empowering.
    I just would like to know what everyone else's thoughts are on the subject. And maybe if they have any advice about living with the pain of having no choice but to do it to survive (like myself)...
     
  2. Ozibuna

    Ozibuna Well-Known Member

    You do more then that and it will make you even worse if not now later for sure.
     
  3. Epiphany

    Epiphany Well-Known Member

    I don't mean to sound rude, but I don't understand what you mean when you say I "do more than that"...
     
  4. Random

    Random Well-Known Member

    I don't look down on anyone. I generally don't care what people do with their genitals. Although if I was going to have an intimate relationship with someone involved in the sex trade, I'd hope they'd be honest with me about what they do.
     
  5. Terry

    Terry Antiquities Friend Staff Alumni

    Veevz hun, while I don't advocate the sex trade as a career choice, no one knows what shit life may throw at a person or what situations a person can find themselves in where they feel it is their only choice.
    As soon as you can, get out of it and I say this for your sake; not from any high flown moral stand. :hug:
     
  6. malamute

    malamute Member

    Since the 'trade' exists because there's a demand, I dont focus on why women make their choices. Why do these men think its ok to rent a woman like that? I think those men are the lowest of the low personally. There's no excuse. I'm not sure if youre in the US, but in the UK the average age for entering prostitution is 14 and most prostitutes are homeless. Discussing their choices makes no sense when we never talk about the punters - supposedly thats natural.
     
  7. Issaccs

    Issaccs Well-Known Member

    Who says its not okay?
     
  8. Epiphany

    Epiphany Well-Known Member

    I think if I didn't do what I do, I would be homeless. The only reasons I'm still doing it is because I have to pay my rent, and bills, and buy groceries, AND because it's what I'm good at.
     
  9. malamute

    malamute Member

    Its not that anyone says 'it's ok for men to rent women' (many do say this), it's just implied on the questions people usually ask, where it's almost like punters dont even exist in the equation. It's not what most people think the issue is.
     
  10. Epiphany

    Epiphany Well-Known Member

    See, I don't do it on the street. It's kind of like a business. And the men in my town have to go through a huge ordeal of 'john school' if they get caught picking up girls on the street.
     
  11. Random

    Random Well-Known Member

    Here's what I'm not understanding. If you have a problem with one person paying another person for a mutually agreed upon service, then are you saying you have a problem with a person paying a waitress for serving them their food? How about paying someone to build a house or drive you to the airport or mow your lawn?

    Why is sex different? It is just a service. We "rent" people all the time.Nothing would get done otherwise. Some men don't have wives. Some men aren't attractive and would be bad husbands anyway. You would have them masturbate for the rest of their lives just because you have this one issue you've singled out from the thousands of services people provide in exchange for a fee?
     
  12. Hae-Gi

    Hae-Gi Banned Member

    All people who buy sexual services should to be tortured to death. :mad: Depending on the situation, however, it may be acceptable just to quickly kill them. Pimps are the worst, though. :mad: It's despicable that many use that word, just for the "fun" of it, nowadays.

    I have no respect for those that choose to enter the sex industry without absolutely having to do it, though... promiscuity is thoroughly sickening.
     
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  13. Bob26003

    Bob26003 Well-Known Member

    Damn, that's a pretty insane viewpoint HaeGi. Sounds like you are full of anger.

    Anyway, I don't see anything wrong with it at all.

    Prostitution has ALWAYS been around. I firmly believe that prostitution should be legal. That way it could be regulated and kept safe.

    Also, I am of the opinion that if Men and Women could utilize prostitution services if necessary it would decrease the number of sexual crimes.

    So many sex offenders are repressed (just look at Catholic Priests) ............. and unable to fulfill their BIOLOGICAL urges........

    So what happens, they become deviants.

    I think you are providing a valuable service to society. :smile:

    Hell, I wish there was a rub n tug around here. :) ........... Seriously

    And that does not make me the "lowest of the low" as someone put it. I am a good citizen. No criminal record and I am a nice and helping person. Im just not good with Women.

    I agree with random, its a service that is in demand and helps other people.

    I firmly believe that sex crimes would go down if it was legal.
     
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  14. Anime-Zodiac

    Anime-Zodiac Well-Known Member

    Supply and demand or should it been known as "demand and supply"
     
  15. OutCaste

    OutCaste Well-Known Member

    Sorry, but this is a little too extreme. I don't see anything wrong with men going to willing prostitutes for sex. Sexual urges are natural. Trying to supress them can make you even more depraved.
     
  16. malamute

    malamute Member

    This is incredibly depressing. Do you even realise how commonly prostitutes are raped? Men are not just entitled by birthright to have women serve them sexually, no matter how long it's been happening.

    If you knew what women experience during prostitution I think you'd see it has nothing to do with their own sexuality. Serving men sexually at their demand and 'sex' are not the same thing.

    legalisation in Australia has effectively made the state a pimp, and there is still a booming underground scene and a growing problem with child trafficking. Amsterdam is closing most of its window brothels because legalised prostitution makes it easier to traffic women there, and organised crime is on the rise.

    Maybe we should just learn that we dont have the right to have someone sexually service us? Having 'biological urges' does not give me the right to access someone elses body, or blame them if I decide to sexually assault someone, jesus! And being penetrated is not the same as modelling or serving someone a cup of tea. If anyone thinks it is, why dont you try it?
     
  17. Random

    Random Well-Known Member

    Has it occurred to you that it doesn't have to be that way? Yes. There are problems with prostitution just as there are problems with everything. Why do we single prostitution out and ignore everything else that is problematic. Because people are prejudiced against prostitution. That's why. Tell me you aren't. Tell me you're looking at it objectively.

    No. They're doing it because conservatives are gaining ground there. Look in the US. Prostitution is officially illegal just about everywhere. Has it improved anything? No. It's just been driven farther underground. Hookers can't really go to the cops when their pimps abuse them because prostitution is illegal. What are they going to do? Sue?


    Of course not. But does a person have a right to sell their services (sexual opr otherwise) if they choose to? I'm not in favor of forced prostitution or women being beaten by pimps or sexual assaults. Those are problems that are caused primarily by the fact that hookers have to sneak around in the shadows.

    I have. I'm bisexual. So please chill with the condescending attitude. Frankly, I'd rather fuck for a living than mop floors. Unfortunately, nobody would pay me to fuck so there.
     
  18. malamute

    malamute Member

    Ok Random, I think you're getting very defensive. I know prostitutes and ex-prostitutes, I know punters, and I've heard all these rants and arguments before and dont think they hold any weight. I'm afraid you're going to have to accept that some people dont think the prostitution of women is ok, no matter how much of an aggressive response this generates. And to answer your demand - my opinion is as objective as anyone elses, including yours. Having an opinion does not make me prejudiced and condescending, and attacking me does not make you objective. I think this is a human rights issue (and by the way even women in legal brothels are at high risk of rape)- so no, I dont agree with men using prostitutes - sorry.
     
  19. Bob26003

    Bob26003 Well-Known Member

    Your argument is ridiculous. You make it sound as if all Women have no choice but to get into prostitution. As if they all are being forced. Thats ridiculous.

    Go to Las Vegas, those call Girls make GOOD money. Just as do many Pornstars.

    For instance: Have you ever seen the show Cathouse on HBO about the moonlight Bunny ranch in Nevada. Those Girls make a Killing. And they have fun!

    Many little rich Girls do porn (Paris Hilton)............ Which is essentially prostition: Having sex with some guy (or maybe two) that you don't know for money on camera.

    And they don't do it because they have to, they do it because they want to.

    And about Prostitutes being raped: this is just another reason to have it Legal and regulated.

    If it is something the Woman wants to do, there is nothing wrong with it.

    And don't act like every Woman gets into prostitution because they HAVE to. Thats just not true.

    Strippers make GOOD money, Pornstars make GOOD money, many call Girls make GOOOD money. Shit, in many cases much more than you or I make.

    Hell, I have heard of strippers walking away with a couple hundred to five hundred bucks a night! And high class call girls making over a thousand a pop!

    Come on now............. I just don't see that as the act of a victim. Not that that doesn't happen. It does, why? Because it is illegal. thats why

    And they do so because they choose to.

    Sex is not a dirty shameful act. We all have genitals. And unless you want to live in a theocracy, you are going to have to respect other people's choices and views.

    This debate is not about the safety of Women, because clearly regulation would be SO MUCH SAFER AND CLEANER>

    This is about religious Theocrats trying to impose their will over society. Same ol story...........

    Are your views influenced by Religion?

    :tongue:
     
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  20. Issaccs

    Issaccs Well-Known Member

    Work related hazard, soldiers are at increased risk of getting shot, does that mean we should disband he armed forces?
     
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