Sexting...did you know?

[titanic]

Living in your own world - you really need to educate yourself on the subject and stop making excuses. Its wrong and you know it.

http://www.thepinkcross.org/videos just look at the stats and the videos.

It will also open your eyes if you watch BBC's documentry series The Dark Side of Porn.

My facebook friend, Harmony Dust - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVzszNaQiz0 founder of: http://iamatreasure.com/

News of a positive HIV test from an active adult performer broke Tuesday. And while production on new films has been halted by several major companies, plenty more are continuing to film despite the threats of the recent news. The number of performers that have been exposed to HIV is still not known.

Porn is about fantasy. But the truth is, the performers are real people, with real lives and real blood running through their veins. Unfortunately, it is in moments like these when we see the reality of the industry. Despite rigorous testing practices by AIM (Adult Industry Healthcare Foundation) the threat to the lives of adult performers is real and true. Even more so in areas of the industry where HIV testing is not a regular practice.

And as an “ex-industry girl” who spends my life helping other women rebuild their lives in the aftermath of industry work, I can’t help but wonder, while AIM may work to protect the health of adult performers, what/who can protect their hearts and minds from the impact of sex work?

Harmony Dust

 

[titanic]

huh, I don't know where you get your information but I've seen many documentaries that show most porn star are always tested to make sure they are all safe, some use condoms because there are many varied types of porn...there's also educational videos meant for couples to spice up their lives...

as for monogamy, many mammals are polygamist and so there's nothing wrong with that...

and NOT MOST of them have been abused...people in the sex industry(besides white trade and forced sex labor) are pretty normal people who want to make money so they can settle, and I've seen many many porn star that are married, or coupled...and for them they see the importance of being together without being monopolies by sex...they value their relationship more since they have sex all day and when they have sex with their partners its more intimate...

to be honest sex is a form of creative expression toward yourself, God and your partner whom ever he/she may be...God condones hate not love...

It's immoral, disgusting and addictive. It's disrespecting and Degrading to women. Men treat women like objects and pieces of meat. It's the biggest thorn in one's succesful married life. It spoils teens and adults alike.

And please dont quote God to back up your arguement for that filth.

strange sex:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg2yZmtDaH8

Sex as worship:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRefxQHZU4E

 

[morning rush]

oye, that's your opinion...not fact...you're the one who should research your facts...of course there's a dark side to porn but its NOT all there is...there are porn that are made by women for women, and those women aren't all degraded and objectified...they aren't being forced with a gun on their head...I've seen a few porn star of the industry who love their work and know where they are going and what they want....

there's a dark side to everything lady, that's nothing new...but the only reason you find it filth is because you think God condones it, and I know he doesn't...if Jesus were here right now, he'd be hanging out with them...not you...

so don't tell me what to do, what to think....I"m a very intelligent lady and I"ve seen documentaries on women and men of the industry who have a head on their shoulder and made their own way...

we can get HIV from anywhere...you should watch a documentary on HIV/AIDS called house of numbers...

to me it sounds like you only saw what you wanted to see, and then insulting everyone with a different opinion than you

 

[aoeu]

I wonder, would the family of the girl have grounds for a wrongful death suit on the ex in question? I suspect he's not criminally liable, but it seems like he did do some serious damage.

 

[Lovecraft]

Dentists dont have sex with their patients.

That's irrelevant to whether a high suicide rate in a profession makes it a poor profession to be shunned.

I dont agree with porn full stop. And viewers are nothing more than peeping toms viewing unmarried porn performers who have sex with hundreds of people a day.

And?

What good is a HIV test after the event? The fact that they have to test so often goes to show how discusting it is.

It's not useful after the even in the very rare case they get it; it's very useful to the person in their next planned scene that they're calling off so as to stop spreading AIDS.

Many of them go on to regret what they have done and yes, maybe at that point in their lives they don't have any respect for themselves, but show some respect for them by turning away from it.

See talks by girls like Sasha Grey - she's done lots of porn and she openly admits she does it because she greatly values sexual exploration. Sure, some people would do porn for money because they don't care enough about themselves to do with the body what they want done; that hardly means anyone in porn is instantly lacking respect for themselves.

The majority of porn performers have experienced abusive backgrounds, sexually abused, raped, homelessness

Depends on the porn. I go for the 'good stuff' that's produced by people like Tristan Taormino and such which is has themes usually, and shows the two partners before hand talking about what they're looking for in the scene, what they like, and them telling each other. All good, consensual stuff.

You like to think all porn is the kind made by someone holding a 10$ camera up while some prostitute off the street is 'working'.

and many are high on drug whilst performing, and using it to fund their drug habits. Do you really want to condone all this?

Do you condone un-sourced claims and poor generalizations? It appears so.

Plus, there is no guarentee your'e not watching a child under the age of consent.

AHAHAHAHAHA no.

In the US and Canada you have to keep records of all scenes including the persons in them and proof they were of age. Besides, any child sufficiently underage to actually be unacceptable to me and most people (< 16 years old) will look it.

Living in your own world - you really need to educate yourself on the subject and stop making excuses. Its wrong and you know it.

He *knows* it's wrong? How presumptuous of you to say so - I'm glad you're a psychic! It's quite clear you're closed-minded when you're imposing thoughts on your opponents.

http://www.thepinkcross.org/videos just look at the stats and the videos.

I don't care what a biased site most likely organized and run by other people that are out to get porn off the streets because of religious influence have to say, I care what people that do porn, people that have extensively studied human sexuality and scientific study have to say.

Here, I have a video too! Yep.

It will also open your eyes if you watch BBC's documentry series The Dark Side of Porn.

Have you seen the dark side of the police force? Does it mean the police force should be disbanded?

My facebook friend, Harmony Dust - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVzszNaQiz0 founder of: http://iamatreasure.com/

That site openly admits they're in it for religious reasons, not rational reasons.

News of a positive HIV test from an active adult performer broke Tuesday. And while production on new films has been halted by several major companies, plenty more are continuing to film despite the threats of the recent news. The number of performers that have been exposed to HIV is still not known.

So in the entire porn industry one bad accident with HIV is a notably instance? No. I can't claim that all men are bad by showing you a few murder cases of men killing their wives. It's also very easy for some companies to know that they're isolated from the incident by a quick check on who got the AIDS and if they or anyone they worked with worked with the company recently.

Porn is about fantasy. But the truth is, the performers are real people, with real lives and real blood running through their veins.

Yep. There's plenty of porn that is all about both partners enjoying themselves; despite popular belief on the anti-porn side there are girls and boys that love BDSM which is very often categorized as 'rape porn' by the anti-porn side. Read at least some of this.

Unfortunately, it is in moments like these when we see the reality of the industry. Despite rigorous testing practices by AIM (Adult Industry Healthcare Foundation) the threat to the lives of adult performers is real and true. Even more so in areas of the industry where HIV testing is not a regular practice.

And the number of roofers that get bad falls is much greater than in the general population; should we ban roofing?

And as an “ex-industry girl” who spends my life helping other women rebuild their lives in the aftermath of industry work, I can’t help but wonder, while AIM may work to protect the health of adult performers, what/who can protect their hearts and minds from the impact of sex work?

If it's emotionally damaging to be in the industry for that girl I'm glad she's out; she should recognize that although more emotional care is warranted for pornographers that doesn't mean everyone in porn is miserable.

It's immoral, disgusting

Both nothing but your opinions.

and addictive.

Sex is a human need the same as food. Is food addictive?

It's disrespecting and Degrading to women. Men treat women like objects and pieces of meat.

Some porn? Sure. All porn? Certainly not.

It's the biggest thorn in one's succesful married life. It spoils teens and adults alike.

Ah, you're hilarious! Plenty of couples, like my own, have found some good ideas in pornographic material and have both used it as a means for sexual gratification. We love each other; there's nothing wrong with it in the context of our relationship. Plenty of couples have porn and each other.

 

[titanic]

there's a dark side to everything lady, that's nothing new...but the only reason you find it filth is because you think God condones it, and I know he doesn't...if Jesus were here right now, he'd be hanging out with them...not you...

I think you have used the word 'condone' incorrectly. God does not condone prostitution. When you say 'hanging out with them' could you be referring to repentance? Repentance turning away from the sin. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repentance

http://www.gotquestions.org/prostitution.html

Matthew 5:28 "If a man looks on a woman to lust after her, he has committed adultery with her already in his heart."

Psalm 101:3 "I will set no unclean thing before my eyes."

Philippians 4:7, 8 "Keep your hearts and minds in Christ Jesus... Whatsover things are pure... if there be any virtue... think on these things."

The word "pornography" comes from the Greek porneia, porneuo, and porne. Porneia is translated "fornication" in the King James Version (Mat 5:32; John 8:41; Rom 1:29; 1 Corin 6:9,13,18; Gal 5:19; Rev 19:2; etc.). Porneuo is the verb "to commit fornication," as in 1 Corin 6:18. Porne is translated "harlot" in Mat 21:31-32; 1 Corin 6:15; and Rev 17:5.

Ephesians 5:5 "For this ye know, that no *****monger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God."

1 Timothy 1:10 "For *****mongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine"

Hebrews 13:4 "Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but *****mongers and adulterers God will judge."

Revelation 21:8 "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and *****mongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death."

Revelation 22:15 "For without are dog, and sorcerers, and
*****mongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie."

Many lustful sins take place in the dark, in secret, but nothing is hid from God:

Hebrews 4:13 "All things are naked and opened to the eyes of Him with whom we have to do."

Numbers 32:23 "Be sure your sin will find you out."

More serious than other sins?
Pornography seems more disgusting than other evils.

1 Corinthians 6:18 "Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. "

1 Corinthians 6:18-20 "What? Know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you ...? therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's."

'Just looking'?
Some would argue that looking at the naked human body is not evil, because God made it beautiful, and Adam and Eve were naked in the garden. However, that was before sin entered the picture.
"The eye is the window of the soul," as the saying goes. What we look at does affect us spiritually - and can cause us to sin. David "SAW" the woman naked, before he got ideas to sin with her. Jesus said that if a man "looks at a woman to lust after her, he has committed adultery with her already in his heart"; etc. The sin takes place even before the action is executed.
Scripture gives many examples of men being enticed by the sight of a woman. Shechem saw the woman before he raped her. David saw the woman bathing before he had sex with her. Judah saw the harlot before he had sex with her. It was the same for Samson, etc.

Genesis 34:2 "And when Shechem the son of Hamor the Hivite, the prince of the land, SAW HER, he took her and lay with her by force."

2 Samuel 11:2-5 "Now when evening came David arose from his bed and walked around on the roof of the king's house, and from the roof he SAW A WOMAN BATHING; and the woman was very beautiful in appearance. So David sent and inquired about the woman. And one said, 'Is this not ... the wife of Uriah the Hittite?' And David sent messengers and took her, and when she came to him, he lay with her... And the woman conceived; and she sent and told David, and said, 'I am pregnant.'"

Matthew 5:28 "but I say to you, that everyone who LOOKS on a woman to LUST for her has committed adultery with her already in his heart.

Genesis 38:2-3 "And Judah SAW there a daughter of a certain Canaanite whose name was Shua; and he took her and went in to her. So she conceived and bore a son and he named him Er...."

Genesis 38:15-16 "When Judah SAW HER, he thought she was a harlot.... So he turned aside to her by the road, and said, 'Here now, let me come in to you'; ...And she said, 'What will you give me, that you may come in to me?'"

Judges 16:1 "Now Samson went to Gaza and SAW a harlot there, and went in to her."

Judges 14:2-3 "So he came back and told his father and mother, 'I SAW a woman in Timnah, one of the daughters of the Philistines; now therefore, get her for me as a wife.' Then his father and his mother said to him, 'Is there no woman among the daughters of your relatives, or among all our people, that you go to take a wife from the uncircumcised Philistines?' But Samson said to his father, 'Get her for me, for SHE LOOKS GOOD TO ME.'"

Visual stimulation is more common in man than in woman, however. There's just one example in Scripture of a woman lusting after a man by SEEING him:

Genesis 39:7-12 "And it came about after these events that his master's wife looked with desire at Joseph, and she said, 'Lie with me.' But he refused and said to his master's wife, 'Behold, with me here, my master does not concern himself with anything in the house, and he has put all that he owns in my charge. There is no one greater in this house than I, and he has withheld nothing from me except you, because you are his wife. How then could I do this great evil, and sin against God?' And it came about as she spoke to Joseph day after day, that he did not listen to her to lie beside her, or be with her. Now it happened one day that he went into the house to do his work, and none of the men of the household was there inside. And she caught him by his garment, saying, 'Lie with me!' And he left his garment in her hand and fled, and went outside."

How can addiction to porn be overcome?
Giving in to lustful desires is a sign of spiritual weakness. Ephesians 6 tells us what armor to put on, to be "strong" in spiritual battle.
If you don't want to get slaughtered in battle, don't go dancing in the minefields. Former alcoholics don't hang out in bars. Fill that free time with a positive activity: Read a book. Sing a psalm. Call a friend. Visit a nursing home. Pray. As the saying goes, "Idleness is the devil's workshop."
Christians especially should not practice such sins, as we will be held to a stricter standard:

1 Peter 4:17 "Judgment must begin first at the household of God."

Luke 12:48 "To whom much (light) has been given, much (responsibility) will be required."

Is it possible to overcome this sin?

1 Corinthians 6:9, 11 "...such were (past tense) some of you. But now...."

Being tempted is not sin (even Jesus was tempted) - but giving in to it, or seeking it out, surely is.

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"For he hath called us out of darkness and into his marvelous light!"

1 Peter 2:9

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Legal Definition of Obscenity

The 1973 case of Miller v. California defined "obscenity"as material that meets all three of the following conditions:

1. The average person, applying contemporary community standards, would find that the work, taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interests.

2. The work depicts or describes, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct specifically defined by the applicable state (or federal) law, and

3. The work taken as a whole, lacks serious, artistic, political or scientific value.

Related Bible Studies:

Adultery & Fornication: A Study in the Scriptures

Holiness: A Study in the Scriptures

Temptation: A Study in the Scriptures

Spiritual Warfare

Social & Psychological Effects of Porn

Research has shown that 40 to 50% of rapists use porn to arouse themselves prior to seeking out a victim.

Even brief exposure to violent forms of pornography can lead to anti-social attitudes and behavior - i.e., a more aggressive attitude toward women.

Studies have shown that exposure to porn can lead to increased desensitization to sexual violence and rape.

A strong statistical correlation has been found between circulation rates of porn magazines and rape rates in that area.

http://www.dianedew.com/porn.htm

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About 1.2 million children annually are exploited in child pornography and prostitution. (Source: Women Against Pornography)

 

[aoeu]

Judge not that you be not judged.

And FFS get over the Old Testament. Follow the teachings of Christ if you wish to call yourself Christian.

 

[titanic]

Not a judgement. Its truth.

The Immoral Christian
http://www.heavensfamily.org/ss/ggd/ggd_02

 

[Lovecraft]

Matthew 5:28 "If a man looks on a woman to lust after her, he has committed adultery with her already in his heart."

If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.

I can quote the bible too; do you endorse marrying your rapist?

Psalm 101:3 "I will set no unclean thing before my eyes."

At the LORD's command, a man of God from Judah went to Bethel, and he arrived there just as Jeroboam was approaching the altar to offer a sacrifice. Then at the LORD's command, he shouted, "O altar, altar! This is what the LORD says: A child named Josiah will be born into the dynasty of David. On you he will sacrifice the priests from the pagan shrines who come here to burn incense, and human bones will be burned on you."

Is that not unclean? No. I guess that's clean to put before eyes but not some consensual sex on video.

Philippians 4:7, 8 "Keep your hearts and minds in Christ Jesus... Whatsover things are pure... if there be any virtue... think on these things."

However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance.

Think more on the purity of that bible.

The word "pornography" comes from the Greek porneia, porneuo, and porne. Porneia is translated "fornication" in the King James Version (Mat 5:32; John 8:41; Rom 1:29; 1 Corin 6:9,13,18; Gal 5:19; Rev 19:2; etc.). Porneuo is the verb "to commit fornication," as in 1 Corin 6:18. Porne is translated "harlot" in Mat 21:31-32; 1 Corin 6:15; and Rev 17:5.

Alright, sounds correct to me.

Ephesians 5:5 "For this ye know, that no *****monger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God."

Meanwhile, the LORD instructed one of the group of prophets to say to another man, "Strike me!" But the man refused to strike the prophet. Then the prophet told him, "Because you have not obeyed the voice of the LORD, a lion will kill you as soon as you leave me." And sure enough, when he had gone, a lion attacked and killed him.

Apparently a quick way to hell is not punching out prophets.

Hebrews 13:4 "Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but *****mongers and adulterers God will judge."

When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife.

Ah, the sanctity of marriage!

Revelation 21:8 "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and *****mongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death."

"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives."

If you say the abominable will burn because of the bible, and the bible says gays are abominable... well I think we know now how you feel about gays. If you deny you feel that gays go to hell you're a liar and going to hell.

Hebrews 4:13 "All things are naked and opened to the eyes of Him with whom we have to do."

Numbers 32:23 "Be sure your sin will find you out."

When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property.

Good thing I don't have to worry about God realizing I beat the shit out of my slaves.


1 Corinthians 6:18 "Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. "

1 Corinthians 6:18-20 "What? Know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you ...? therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's."

How can God claim we have free will if he claims he owns us?

'Just looking'?
Some would argue that looking at the naked human body is not evil, because God made it beautiful, and Adam and Eve were naked in the garden. However, that was before sin entered the picture.
"The eye is the window of the soul," as the saying goes. What we look at does affect us spiritually - and can cause us to sin. David "SAW" the woman naked, before he got ideas to sin with her. Jesus said that if a man "looks at a woman to lust after her, he has committed adultery with her already in his heart"; etc. The sin takes place even before the action is executed.
Scripture gives many examples of men being enticed by the sight of a woman. Shechem saw the woman before he raped her. David saw the woman bathing before he had sex with her. Judah saw the harlot before he had sex with her. It was the same for Samson, etc.

So basically you think the full burqua for women is a good idea and men are unable to control themselves?

Genesis 34:2 "And when Shechem the son of Hamor the Hivite, the prince of the land, SAW HER, he took her and lay with her by force."

Yes, that's exactly what you're saying. I see.

2 Samuel 11:2-5 "Now when evening came David arose from his bed and walked around on the roof of the king's house, and from the roof he SAW A WOMAN BATHING; and the woman was very beautiful in appearance. So David sent and inquired about the woman. And one said, 'Is this not ... the wife of Uriah the Hittite?' And David sent messengers and took her, and when she came to him, he lay with her... And the woman conceived; and she sent and told David, and said, 'I am pregnant.'"

Ya, if only David had some porno to hold him over!

Matthew 5:28 "but I say to you, that everyone who LOOKS on a woman to LUST for her has committed adultery with her already in his heart.

Then everyone is a horrible sinner, for all of us want for sex because sex is an inherent human need.

Genesis 38:2-3 "And Judah SAW there a daughter of a certain Canaanite whose name was Shua; and he took her and went in to her. So she conceived and bore a son and he named him Er...."

Genesis 38:15-16 "When Judah SAW HER, he thought she was a harlot.... So he turned aside to her by the road, and said, 'Here now, let me come in to you'; ...And she said, 'What will you give me, that you may come in to me?'"

Judges 16:1 "Now Samson went to Gaza and SAW a harlot there, and went in to her."

We got it, they saw some hot chicks. Us guys all do and it's not like every man is a serial rapist.

Judges 14:2-3 "So he came back and told his father and mother, 'I SAW a woman in Timnah, one of the daughters of the Philistines; now therefore, get her for me as a wife.' Then his father and his mother said to him, 'Is there no woman among the daughters of your relatives, or among all our people, that you go to take a wife from the uncircumcised Philistines?' But Samson said to his father, 'Get her for me, for SHE LOOKS GOOD TO ME.'"

I'd rather him get a chick that looks good of his own accord then get forced to marry a cousin, don't you agree? Do you often marry cousins?

Visual stimulation is more common in man than in woman, however. There's just one example in Scripture of a woman lusting after a man by SEEING him:

And if you were here in real life you'd figure out men and women lust just as much.

Genesis 39:7-12 "And it came about after these events that his master's wife looked with desire at Joseph, and she said, 'Lie with me.' But he refused and said to his master's wife, 'Behold, with me here, my master does not concern himself with anything in the house, and he has put all that he owns in my charge. There is no one greater in this house than I, and he has withheld nothing from me except you, because you are his wife. How then could I do this great evil, and sin against God?' And it came about as she spoke to Joseph day after day, that he did not listen to her to lie beside her, or be with her. Now it happened one day that he went into the house to do his work, and none of the men of the household was there inside. And she caught him by his garment, saying, 'Lie with me!' And he left his garment in her hand and fled, and went outside."

Blah blah, yes, lust is bad.

How can addiction to porn be overcome?

You have as of yet to convince anyone that it's even addictive. Sex is a human *NEED*. To overcome our sexual desire is to GO AGAINST OUR NATURE.

Giving in to lustful desires is a sign of spiritual weakness. Ephesians 6 tells us what armor to put on, to be "strong" in spiritual battle.
If you don't want to get slaughtered in battle, don't go dancing in the minefields. Former alcoholics don't hang out in bars. Fill that free time with a positive activity: Read a book. Sing a psalm. Call a friend. Visit a nursing home. Pray. As the saying goes, "Idleness is the devil's workshop."
Christians especially should not practice such sins, as we will be held to a stricter standard:

Christians aren't held to a stricter standard, the bible is clear it thinks non-Christians go to hell as a matter of course, no clemency there. Stop pretending you're so hard done by with your self-imposed responsibilities.

1 Peter 4:17 "Judgment must begin first at the household of God."

I think the judiciary branch does a better job without any house of god.

Luke 12:48 "To whom much (light) has been given, much (responsibility) will be required."

Are you claiming to be more enlightened then us?

Is it possible to overcome this sin?

1 Corinthians 6:9, 11 "...such were (past tense) some of you. But now...."

Being tempted is not sin (even Jesus was tempted) - but giving in to it, or seeking it out, surely is.

You just told us before that thinking about how hot a girl is is a sin, but now you're saying it's OK if you don't act on it. Get consistent buddy.

Legal Definition of Obscenity

No, you can't do that. The legal precedent of 1973 is no longer relevant, especially because even in 1973 pornography WAS NOT MADE ILLEGAL BY THAT STANDARD.

Research has shown that 40 to 50% of rapists use porn to arouse themselves prior to seeking out a victim.

Correlation does not imply causation, etc. I'm surprised it's not far higher. Should we ban cars if more than 90% of criminals use them?

Even brief exposure to violent forms of pornography can lead to anti-social attitudes and behavior - i.e., a more aggressive attitude toward women.

Says who? What's a 'violent' pornography? I've seen BDSM porn and if you don't know what that is, despite my linking you to the basic outline, then why are you coaxing me to respond to you?

Studies have shown that exposure to porn can lead to increased desensitization to sexual violence and rape.

A strong statistical correlation has been found between circulation rates of porn magazines and rape rates in that area.

http://www.dianedew.com/porn.htm

I won't believe any of your websites that openly admit they are reinforcing faith, not reason. Here's something for you to see based off of fact. The internet decreases rapes.

About 1.2 million children annually are exploited in child pornography and prostitution. (Source: Women Against Pornography)

And that's terrible, but unrelated to pornography in the mainstream: pornographer created by consenting adults.

 

[morning rush]

wow we see the true face of christianity there...homophobes, womanising, judgement and most of all hate of everything that makes us human. And I can't believe that a christian would accept raping, and kidnapping of a woman or man for that fact and say it was because of her looks...yeah typical...blame others for their own responsibility...of course the poor rapist couldn't control himself while there was an innocent young woman walking around....


wow...I'm so glad I'm not christian....I don't have to answer God for all of that thank you for making me appreciate my life soooooo much better, I now know there are worse people in the world...

 

[KittyGirl]

wow.

All I have to say is: I pity titanic.
And it wasn't "God's will" that sunk the ship and killed all those people-- it was an iceberg.

also-- we evolved from monkeys.
science.

Good day, sir.

 

[titanic]

wow.

All I have to say is: I pity titanic.
And it wasn't "God's will" that sunk the ship and killed all those people-- it was an iceberg.

also-- we evolved from monkeys.
science.

Good day, sir.

Yeah, we know about the iceberg lol - what that has to do with the price of bread I don't know. The titanic song (the film) was played at my ex's funeral.

Your monkey / ape statement betrays your lack of scientific knowledge.

I suggest that you go and read a bit about natural selection, it might clear up a few issues for you.

 

[KittyGirl]

Well, excuse me.
I'm a moron.

I suppose I was annoyed by your continuous quotes of religious jargon and judgment you were placing on people-- is it not your 'lord and savior' who is the only one who should pass judgment onto people?
It just makes me feel very sad, almost to the point of vomiting when people quote the bible and claim to be caring people and people "of God" when they are being the most judgmental of all.

With that said though; I have no idea what you are like as a person- so I apologize.
I was also judging you only based on a couple of posts and the reaction to those posts.
I am also apologizing for attempting to be condescending over the internet. That obviously doesn't work.

 

[Anonymous_with_fake_birth]

Andrew,I can see perfectly why that would be enough for someone to commit suicide. Having the same things as everyone else wouldn't make it any less painful. She felt humiliated and degraded.

No offence intended..but how would you feel if the same was done to you?

Honestly, people went trough worse then that and have been more degraded and more humiliated and still did not commit suicide.

I believe this young girl had not learn a lot from her parents and she did not know how life can be hard sometimes.

It's still a very very sad thing to hear.

God bless her.

 

[titanic]

Well, excuse me.
I'm a moron.

I suppose I was annoyed by your continuous quotes of religious jargon and judgment you were placing on people-- is it not your 'lord and savior' who is the only one who should pass judgment onto people?
It just makes me feel very sad, almost to the point of vomiting when people quote the bible and claim to be caring people and people "of God" when they are being the most judgmental of all.

With that said though; I have no idea what you are like as a person- so I apologize.
I was also judging you only based on a couple of posts and the reaction to those posts.
I am also apologizing for attempting to be condescending over the internet. That obviously doesn't work.

No worries KittyGirl, these subjects in the 'soap box' are bound to get people passionate, because we are all so unique and have different view points / morals & values.

Although I sometimes get frustrated when non-Christians use scripture out of context to try and prove something, and possibly I do the same?
But I do know that pornography is bad, however people try and dress it up. I was reading this website today. http://gaildines.com/ and I'm considering buying her book. I've read a book called, An Affair Of The Mind, one womans courageous battle to salvage her family from the devastation of pornography. So you maybe see why I am passionate about the subject and get all muddled sometimes?!

I believe that watching pornography is like satan coming straight out of the screen at you.

I'm not judging any individual, just annoyed about the porn industry, and how a lot of people think its normal, because society tells us it is. We live in a society of pornification, everywhere we look, even music vidoes are full of sexually explicit scenes, and on the childrens channel which my kids were watching today, I noticed how the little toys 'Bratz' aimed at young girls look so tary like **ores. Even a friend of mine agreed with that, I live with this friend who has HIV, and I dont judge him as a person. But I do think you can reject an individuals behaviour without rejecting the person.

 

[Lovecraft]

It is a common rule in a debate that if one's opponent cannot address their points they may claim the high ground.

Please either concede to my points or address them.

Also you said I quoted the bible out of context; tell me, in which context is it appropriate to enslave?

 

[titanic]

This was on my Facebook this week and wanted to share...
Story of the Week! Before she passed away, Tiffanie wanted her story to be shared. Her legacy continues-Read it here: http://bit.ly/9Ea3AZ

 

[titanic]

It is a common rule in a debate that if one's opponent cannot address their points they may claim the high ground.

Please either concede to my points or address them.

Also you said I quoted the bible out of context; tell me, in which context is it appropriate to enslave?

Hi Lovecraft, its not a competition or a game, although you seem to enjoy disagreeing quite a lot. What are you on about high ground? In six months time a more experienced Christian may come along and refute what you say, and visa versa, there is no 'winner' as such. In fact it is Jesus who has the victory. :stars:

 

[Lovecraft]

Hi Lovecraft, its not a competition or a game, although you seem to enjoy disagreeing quite a lot. What are you on about high ground? In six months time a more experienced Christian may come along and refute what you say, and visa versa, there is no 'winner' as such. In fact it is Jesus who has the victory. :stars:

I have a stance and you have a stance, and when I stated my counter-stance you started trying to reaffirm yours. This is a debate. If you refuse to or are incapable of refuting my points I win. If you refute and I can not rebut then you win. This is how science works to, if you say something you have to be prepared to defend it.

 

[titanic]

I have a stance and you have a stance, and when I stated my counter-stance you started trying to reaffirm yours. This is a debate. If you refuse to or are incapable of refuting my points I win. If you refute and I can not rebut then you win. This is how science works to, if you say something you have to be prepared to defend it.

Fair play. But you need to realise that I'm not a Minister / Pastor and therefore not tooled up to use Christian apologetics.

What I do know tho is that not only have you quoted scripture negatively, but worse you have taken individual verses out of context – both in terms the Old and New Covenants and also the rest of the passage/book of the Bible they are in.

Originally Posted by Deuteronomy 22:28-29
If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.

I would say that that passage is a view of punishment for the perpetrator (he can't have freedom to do anything to anyone else, and has to pay money) and protection for the victim (who would otherwise have been a social outcast).