By what measure do we evaluate strength? I get people telling me that I'm strong for who I am, and what I've done, both here on the forums...but I don't really get it. Duh, i understand what they are saying...but I don't feel like I'm strong at all. Some times, I feel like I'm so fucked up that I won't ever see straight again. Most times if anything, I would have nothing positive to say about myself. I've just had a thought that has been swimming in my head for a while now. Who is stronger... a person who has never been suicidal, and maintains a genuinely happy life, or a person who has been suicidal, and struggles to keep all his shit together? They both aim for happiness, but only one can keep it. Does that make the one who is happy stronger, mentally and emotionally, than the suicidal person? Or is strength the result of the struggle? Just a thought, any thoughts? Hope it made sense to everyone.