I know this post will probably irritate, piss-off, anger or whatever people. But. We all know that not everybody who plans or attempts suicide really wants to die. There is nothing wrong with that. I don't think there is a person in the world who hasnt had the idea cross their mind. But. I can understand that members here post that they are suicidal & are thinking of making an attempt. Im very thankful that we can post topics like that on here. But. It crosses my mind that the people that say they 100% want to die or have to die (?), are posting on a site where they can be tracked down & stopped. I would never say that someone doesnt want to die, but it also is very distressing that when these people say they are going to kill themselves & people offer to find them help or tell them to call for help, that they refuse to do it. Im talking about those who site there saying they have followed thru with their method & need help ASAP. I can understand if there is a lack of funds or support or availability but when people just become stubborn & refuse & sit here saying they are going to do it & even start talking about their method & saying they've started or are going to start going thru with it. That can be hard. I can also understand that the MH system is not a plesant thing to deal with. I have been there. You can bet if they tried to drag me away again I would high-tail it out of here. But at the same time, I find other resources. But. Again, resources can be scarce. But I guess what I don't understand is why when there is help available people will refuse it even though they are threatening to die by suicide, but are still posting it on a site where they can be tracked down. This doesnt mean ever person threatening suicide on here should be tracked down. BUT when someone becomes acutely suicidal on here, starts making threats, saying they have the means & is refusing help, shouldnt something be done? Even if that means someone calling them, or a crisis team being sent out? I didnt post this to be a pain, but it's extremely scary sometimes when people go beyond the ideation & start saying they are going to do it. Many of us are in the same boat & we all know how critical such a situation can become. In the case that someone is posting on here & they 100% want to die, then I would say the situation is more serious & something needs to be done. As members who care & reach out to each other then everything should be done to help those members. If I offend anyone, I will clarify anything that needs clarifying.