:grey: No one will “put” a person down on that person’s request, in the way that is done for animals. But this does not come from a universal consensus that all human life is sacred. Our societies have no problem with “putting” people down by the thousand in acts of war and justifying the results. Instead, the problem with suicides is that they cause disequilibrium in the survivors. Therefore, Society, as embodied in the elites who make its Laws, demands that every citizen bear up to the pressures of life, all the way to the end. Fear of social disorder, not special concern for life, drives the stigma against suicide. Death in effect becomes a performance by the declining person, for the benefit of those who will watch the death. It is homage to the social order and to the gods who allow people to be born. We saw the phenomenon in the offering table scenes of ancient Egypt, and we see it today in the mighty West. :grey: The relevance for this forum is that I think it makes struggles against personal depression harder. For beneath the patina of optimistic denial in our Political Correctness, everyone can deduce the facts, and perceive cynical ugliness lurking in the pond of “life values.” We label the suicide as “selfish,” yet the deed is hardly more selfish than many of the strategies we are permitted freely, such as careerism at expense of “stranger” others. I read here a lot of depressed people expressing some form of this basic truth. <Mod Edit> It would be good to hear more satisfying answers than “there’s so much to live for” or “your problems are only temporary” or “you realize how much it will hurt your family if you...” And I don’t have the answers. I doubt anyone else does. That is sad.